Author Topic: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms  (Read 5778 times)

Peter_S

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Re: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2018, 11:17:50 »
thanks so far for your answers.
Aperture ring: I’ll keep: 20 f4 ai, 35 f2 ai, 50 f1.4 and 1.8, 55 f2.8 and 3.5, 105 f2.5 ai, 135 f2.8 non ai, 200 f4 ai.
AF-D I’ll keep: 85 f1.4, 105 f2.8 micro and 16 f2.8 all chipped

I put to ebay today, AF and AF-D:
24 f2.8, 50 f1.4, 20-35 f2.8, 35-70 f2.8, 80-200 f2.8, 180 f2.8, 300 f4
and my converters: 1.4 a and b type, 2 times ai converter. all like new, hurts a little bit....

Plan to get 14-24 or 16-35, 20 f1.8 and 50 1.4 afs and 70-200 f4 or f2.8 afs and maybe a 24-120 f4 or a 24-70 f2.8

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Re: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2018, 22:00:59 »
NO. NEVER. unless for VR  :o :o :o

   Richard, I´m very happy with the new models. Truth is I didn´t sell the previous ones -but the 50mm 1.4 D, not for photographic reasons- Why so strong opinion? What I am missing?

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Re: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2018, 03:42:53 »
   Richard, I´m very happy with the new models. Truth is I didn´t sell the previous ones -but the 50mm 1.4 D, not for photographic reasons- Why so strong opinion? What I am missing?

the aperture ring is very important to me as I use a lot of older film cameras :o :o :o

also, I can fix AF-D lenses when there is a problem. this will ensure that it will work so long as the IC chip inside is still OK ::) they can fail but more bullet-proof than newer electronic motors. who knows when Nikon or some 3rd party company will stop selling these motors.

personally, the only reason for me to get the AF-S zooms is the VR. when I used to shoot events and coverage, the 70-200VR2 is non-negotiable and is always part of the kit 8)

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Re: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2018, 10:20:37 »
 Thanks Richard, I see your point. In my approach to photography aperture rings are not that important and I can´t repair my own lenses  :-[  Your comments are something to keep in mind.

   I made my way slowly to a 70-200 e  ;)

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Re: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2018, 12:14:01 »
the aperture ring is very important to me as I use a lot of older film cameras :o :o :o

also, I can fix AF-D lenses when there is a problem. this will ensure that it will work so long as the IC chip inside is still OK ::) they can fail but more bullet-proof than newer electronic motors. who knows when Nikon or some 3rd party company will stop selling these motors.

personally, the only reason for me to get the AF-S zooms is the VR. when I used to shoot events and coverage, the 70-200VR2 is non-negotiable and is always part of the kit 8)

In addition, the AF-D lenses can be used on (m)any mirrorless cameras via adapter and can retain the aperture adjustment and the focusing.   8)
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Re: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2018, 13:15:39 »
It should not be completely forgotten that there were AF-S lenses with D Characteristics before G-type was invented
I bought a used copy of the 80-200/2,8  AF-S for this purpose when the 70-200 G came out.
17-35 mm f/2,8, 300 mm f/2,8 and 500 mm f/4 (both AF-S) Version #I come to my mind. I see no need to give those away.
Their adaptability and compatibility is superior to the screwdriver AF lenses.
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Re: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2018, 15:27:07 »
And the fact that they have an aperture / diaphragm ring makes them in some ways operationally superior to G lenses, e.g. when used with certain bodies and in meeting personal user preferences.

I also have the 17-35mm f/2.8 and the 80-200mm f/2.8 AFS lenses with the diaphragm rings.

It should not be completely forgotten that there were AF-S lenses with D Characteristics before G-type was invented
I bought the 80-200/2,8  AF-S used for this purpose when the 70-200 G came out.
17-35 mm f/2,8, 300 mm f/2,8 and 500 mm f/4 (both AF-S) I come to my mind. I see no need to give those away.
Their adaptability and compatibility is superior to the screwdriver AF lenses.
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Re: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2018, 16:54:10 »
It should not be completely forgotten that there were AF-S lenses with D Characteristics before G-type was invented
I bought the 80-200/2,8  AF-S used for this purpose when the 70-200 G came out.
17-35 mm f/2,8, 300 mm f/2,8 and 500 mm f/4 (both AF-S) I come to my mind. I see no need to give those away.

300mm/4D is another D-lens with AF-S. And that one has made much confusion in online forums, because someone think D means screwdriver-AF and call the non-D-lens D, but the only 300mm/4D is AF-S.
There is no illusion, it just looks that way.

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Re: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2018, 17:38:17 »
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300mm/4D is another D-lens with AF-S. And that one has made much confusion in online forums, because someone think D means screwdriver-AF and call the non-D-lens D, but the only 300mm/4D is AF-S.

Right and then you have the DX 10.5mm f/2.8, which is a G lens but screwdriver  :D

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Re: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2018, 13:36:59 »
Yes, the Nikon lens mount system certainly embraces just about all combinations and permutations of MF,  AF and diaphram setting designs and mechanisms.  In spite of the mounts admitted strengths, it is in an overall sense a miss-mash  (aka a mess).

Right and then you have the DX 10.5mm f/2.8, which is a G lens but screwdriver  :D
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Re: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2018, 20:22:03 »
300mm/4D is another D-lens with AF-S. And that one has made much confusion in online forums, because someone think D means screwdriver-AF and call the non-D-lens D, but the only 300mm/4D is AF-S.

Thats true, there are more of those, I just mentioned the lenses I own, the 300/4 D never made it into my bag so far.
And D is confusing thats right. To exacerbate the whole thing there are screwdriver lenses without D-characteristics - got one lens of that type.

BTW to increase the range of combination the first 80-400 mm Zoom lens has got VR but screwdriver AF
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Re: Would you sell your AF-D 2.8 zooms and buy AF-S Zooms
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2018, 05:37:16 »
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I’m thinking about selling my 20-30, 35-70 and 80-200 all 2.8 AF-D zooms.
Additionally my 180 2.8 AF, 24 2.8 AF and the 50 1.4 AF.

20-30? You mean 35 right? I would replace it. I recommend the Tamron 15-30mm over the Nikkor 14-24 actually. For many reasons. It does depend on what you want, so you really should provide more information for us to make a better recommendation.

35-70? Push pull, it must go. I don't like push pull type lenses. I find this range to be "meh" personally. Unless shooting professionally, I'd just pick up a 45mm f/1.8 VC from Tamron, they are $200 off at BH! Mine came out of the box with perfect AF, unlike another company that I won't tell you who called Sigma cough cough cough. (Okay, I know they make great stuff, please don't hang me... oh wait this isn't dpreview)

80-200? For this one, it depends. Do you need faster AF speed? Go for the 70-200mm f/2.8E FL, or its smaller brother, the f/4 version. The older ones suffer from focus breathing due to its IF design, so I won't recommend it.

I used to have a 180mm f/2.8D, only sold it due to its erratic AF. It's a really lovely lens with nice rendering. I didn't miss it though, since I have the 70-200 now.
I will also sell the 24mm and the 50mm. 15-30 covers the 24mm and Tamron's 45mm is a good alternative to any 50mm lenses out there.

I have only been using the 45mm for one week, and already I am pleased with the results.

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