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Re: Nikkor 10.5mm f/2.8 - 62mm filter threads modified
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2025, 15:02:31 »
I already have the lens,

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Re: Nikkor 10.5mm f/2.8 - 62mm filter threads modified
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2025, 09:54:02 »
The shaving conversion is not difficult, just make sure to use an aluminum soda can/sheets from a aluminum can to protect the optics, tape against dust intrusion, measure accurately and go slowly.

While I found a trick to force FX mode on the Z8 and set the aperture on the 10.5mm as posted here: https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=11224.msg209380#msg209380, I finally broke down and bought a cheap dumb adapter to dedicate to the 10.5mm. I liked the design better than the one in that link, price was $25 lower, but might need to add front/rear caps that do not come with it.  The F-mount fit is nice and tight, while the Z-mount side is looser than the FTZ II adapters I have, more the same resistance as mounting the 24-120mm. An Amazon review stated that it has a plastic Z-mount, but I am pretty sure mine is made of coated metal. The register distance seems OK. I was able to calibrate the aperture clicks to a mid range setting of about f/ 5.6-8. The ring has a dampened feeling to it, probably due to generous application of grease to provide the illusion of a precise mechanism.
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Re: Nikkor 10.5mm f/2.8 - 62mm filter threads modified
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2025, 13:35:15 »
Very nicely done! Looks super nice ;)
I like the soda can approach  ;D
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Re: Nikkor 10.5mm f/2.8 - 62mm filter threads modified
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2025, 20:55:21 »
Very nicely done! Looks super nice ;)
I like the soda can approach  ;D

Thanks Erik, much appreciated, especially coming from you. The first thing that came to my mind when I was searching for that soda can was the classical thread with Jacov and all the the soda cans, wondering if one of the cans in that collection would fit the 10.5 mm.  ;D https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=66.msg252#msg252. Again thanks for putting me on the path to this conversion.
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Re: Nikkor 10.5mm f/2.8 - 62mm filter threads modified
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2025, 15:22:31 »
He he, I often think of that image with the Can shower  ;D
Thank you!
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Re: Nikkor 10.5mm f/2.8 - 62mm filter threads modified
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2025, 05:56:49 »
Nice work all.  Thanks to this thread, I've been inspired to find a 10.5mm lens.  I managed to snag a used 10.5mm for a nice price.  It will arrive soon and will be under the Christmas tree for me to open later and be surprised or at least very thankful.

Since this is for use with a Nikon D610 and I already have a Nikon 16mm f/2.8 fisheye, the 10.5mm will be going under the knife to remove the petals for full frame use.

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Re: Nikkor 10.5mm f/2.8 - 62mm filter threads modified
« Reply #36 on: Today at 02:34:21 »
While surfing the topic, I ran across two interesting sites and a copy of a service manual for the 10.5mm f/2.8 G lens.

The video I found had to do with adding helicoid grease to allow for smoother manual focusing.  Based on the feel of the manual focus, this sounded like a nice addition.  The video is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhCr8vdLzm4  Long story short, the author stripped the lens down further than I want to do to grease the helicoid.  Also, from the service manual I found it warns in bright red text:
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Caution:
In case the rear lens group is detached, it is necessary to inspect the resolving power after assembly.
Therefore, if such an inspection cannot be made at service agencies, do NOT detach the rear lens group.
He went so far as to remove the rear elements, the aperture blade unit, and more, and split the front element group before removing it.  All in all, the video is missing some key steps such as when the hood was removed.  Also, probably much more may have been disassembled than needed to access the helicoids but that is not clear.

The second post relevant to trimming the hood is https://blog.captivephotons.com/cutting-the-nikon-10-5-fisheye/  The interesting point of this post is that the author detaches the screws holding the hood to manage to move the hood somewhat forward to cut the hood with the lens somewhat out of the way.  They thought maybe the hood could come off but couldn't see how.

Based on these three sources, it appears that the front element group can probably be unscrewed (assume but not sure) using the outer spanner wrench slots.  From the service manual it appears that may allow the hood to be removed by removing the screws as shown in the post sited.  What was not stated in the video but I implied from the things that were not shown was that the front lens group was difficult to remove and that may be why the front element was removed to allow some acetone to be used to loosen the assembly and they had to split the front element to access the threads.  Warning as was noted in the video acetone will ruin the plastic lens finish.

So two reasonable methods to cut the hood may be to
1) use a can to protect the lens.  (Probably still the simplest and safest if done with care.)
2) the front lens assembly can be removed by unscrewing and hood can be removed next by removing three screws hidden under the rubber focus ring to allow the hood to be cut while not on the lens.

Not sure if number 2 is feasible but certainly looks interesting.  (One of the comments implies that the front lens assembly is difficult to impossible to remove.)

While applying helicoid grease is tempting, in the spirit of "If it's not broke, don't fix it" the level of disassembly in the video is a step too far for me at this time.

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Re: Nikkor 10.5mm f/2.8 - 62mm filter threads modified
« Reply #37 on: Today at 12:02:08 »
I recently noticed that my copy of the 10.5mm actually has a slightly loose front lens group that can be rotated just by the light force of cleaning with a fiber cloth. I tried to carefully tighten what looks like the retaining ring to no effect (it did not move and appeared tight). The performance does not seem to be affected and is still excellent on my Z8. Another note is that it for a long time has developed what I initially thought could be beginning separation, which is visible slightly below the center in the 3rd image in post #24. However after inspection of the optical diagram it appeared to my relief to be a shard or other anomaly at the back lateral edge of the front element and does not affect image quality.
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Re: Nikkor 10.5mm f/2.8 - 62mm filter threads modified
« Reply #38 on: Today at 15:28:17 »
A caution regarding the disassembly video linked to in my previous post and the use of acetone.  The video stated the acetone ruined the finish on the exterior but they used acetone to help remove the rear section of the front lens assembly.  However if the interior parts are also of the same type of plastic, acetone could weld the threads together rather than loosening them.  Since I have not opened up the lens, I cannot comment further, but this is just a caution.