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Gear Talk => Processing & Publication => Topic started by: Akira on May 03, 2019, 00:43:19
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https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/plans.html?promoid=P3KMQYMW&mv=other#
Comparison chart:
https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography/compare-plans.html?promoid=952G4WLC&mv=other
They will continue to offer the plan for 9 USD per month but LR only (no LR Classic). If you continue to use Photoshop in addition to LR, you will have to pay 19 USD per month. The disk space in the cloud is increased to 1TB, though.
As for me, I'm happy to have unsubscribed it last December.
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The strategy move wasn't entirely unexpected? People predicted such development from the onset of subscription of CC.
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The strategy move wasn't entirely unexpected? People predicted such development from the onset of subscription of CC.
I guess you are right. IIRC, the original prices for the subscription plans presented by Adobe were much higher.
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Hmm...the web pages I linked originally seem to have disappeared. What's going on?
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I do not want to use Lightroom at all. Photoshop is the only app I am interested in. Not even Bridge I like to use.
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Apparently, this is a test run:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/6541727532/adobe-test-replaces-10-month-photography-plan-with-1tb-20-month-option
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I do not want to use Lightroom at all. Photoshop is the only app I am interested in. Not even Bridge I like to use.
I didn't like LR at all either. Its persisting catalog system is a major annoyance. The catalog system of Capture One Express is much simpler, compact and not bothering.
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I checked the Adobe/CC page earlier today and again just now (May 12, 21:21 pacific daylight time) and the old standard US$9.95/month was the offered price both times. Test marketing for only certain visitors. The algorithm decides.
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I do not want to use Lightroom at all. Photoshop is the only app I am interested in. Not even Bridge I like to use.
Frank, What app do you use to quickly scroll through 100 or 200 camera files that you have moved from camera card to computer? The supplied app on the MacOS (Preview) is way too slow for such operations.
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Well, expecting Adobe to not raise prices over the years is a bit optimistic as see it. Everything else in life gets more expensive as time goes on. My choice is to remain with Adobe's offerings, YMMV.
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Frank, What app do you use to quickly scroll through 100 or 200 camera files that you have moved from camera card to computer? The supplied app on the MacOS (Preview) is way too slow for such operations.
I am not Frank of course but did you consider Photomechanic? Simple, very fast...
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Frank, What app do you use to quickly scroll through 100 or 200 camera files that you have moved from camera card to computer? The supplied app on the MacOS (Preview) is way too slow for such operations.
I use either View NX or Fast Image Viewer or Photomechanic. I got all three of these
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Well, expecting Adobe to not raise prices over the years is a bit optimistic as see it. Everything else in life gets more expensive as time goes on. My choice is to remain with Adobe's offerings, YMMV.
Doubling the price in one go is a bit of a shock to the system. Still, if enough of the market will bear it then one should not blame Adobe for trying to make money.
For someone who uses both Lightroom and Photoshop, $240 per year might not be unreasonable. For someone like me, who is content with Lightroom, it might be. It is certainly enough to make me look at the alternatives.
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I use either View NX or Fast Image Viewer or Photomechanic. I got all three of these
I love Faststone. Thé best to my view. And it can do a lot more than fast viewing.
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I love Faststone. Thé best to my view. And it can do a lot more than fast viewing.
Has anybody tried NeoFinder?
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Has anybody tried NeoFinder?
Yes, it is an excellent cataloguing program, very fast. Mac only. Does not have editing capability. I think there is a free trial available. The owner is responsive to queries and suggestions.
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Maybe this article will help with this topic.
https://dslrbodies.com/accessories/software-for-nikon-dslrs/software-news/2019-digital-photography/adobe-cc-pricing.html
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Thank you, Anthony. That is the cataloguing side of things sorted. Now to settle on a new RAW developer.
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I love Faststone. Thé best to my view. And it can do a lot more than fast viewing.
I’ll second this vote for FastStone. I’ve used it and loved it for years (I’m Windows-only, no Macs here)
I’ve recently been trying View NX, in the hope the ability to rate images would help my workflow.
But it’s so slow & clunky compared to FastStone (at least running side by side on the same machine), I can’t see me continuing.
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I’ll second this vote for FastStone. I’ve used it and loved it for years (I’m Windows-only, no Macs here)
I’ve recently been trying View NX, in the hope the ability to rate images would help my workflow.
But it’s so slow & clunky compared to FastStone (at least running side by side on the same machine), I can’t see me continuing.
Colin, If you want speed try Photomechanic as Olivier has suggested. it is fast and great for exif editing and key wording.
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The link that I posted above from Thom Hogan's website explains what Adobe is up to, which is on the sneaky side. My costs did not increase, it's still $9.99 monthly for my CC Lr Classic & Ps apps. So check your Adobe account to verify the cost before you leave because you think your costs is doubling. Of course, some folks prefer alternate software, and others prefer anything as long as it isn't from Adobe.
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Colin, If you want speed try Photomechanic as Olivier has suggested. it is fast and great for exif editing and key wording.
There is another difference between FastStone and Photo Mechanic. FastStone is for free and Photo Mechanic charges 139 USD I believe.
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They will continue to offer the plan for 9 USD per month but LR only (no LR Classic). If you continue to use Photoshop in addition to LR, you will have to pay 19 USD per month. The disk space in the cloud is increased to 1TB, though.
As for me, I'm happy to have unsubscribed it last December.
Nobody should accept being dependent on subscription-based or activation-crippled software, ever.
It is not simple. It is not effortless. It is however the only course of action that will work to the benefit of all photographers and all computer users.
Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway
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There is another difference between FastStone and Photo Mechanic. FastStone is for free and Photo Mechanic charges 139 USD I believe.
True but I find Photo Mechanic invaluable for ingesting images. The time saved makes it a sound investment for me. Of course your needs may differ.
FastStone does not have the ingest features I need, and adobe Bridge is so painfully slow.
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As I understand it:
The $20 Subscription offer was for a very different kind of subscription from the regular $10 one.
The $10 per month subscription (which is still available) gives you the apps. but you only get 20 GB of Creative Cloud Storage which is probably all that many people need.
However those who use Lr CC or the iPad apps (which are Cloud-based) can rapidly run out of storage space and the $20 per month subscription would provide 1 TB of Creative Cloud Storage space.
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Nobody should accept being dependent on subscription-based or activation-crippled software, ever.
It is not simple. It is not effortless. It is however the only course of action that will work to the benefit of all photographers and all computer users.
Per Inge Oestmoen, Norway
Photography is not restricted to subscription-based software. There are alternatives. Having said that, I must also point out that many of us like the subscription-based choice. What I do not understand is being told that I should not accept that choice.
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I don't see much difference between subscription and non-...both are an ongoing expense, assuming one needs to accommodate OS changes and new camera support over a period of years. My only issue with subscription is that if you stop paying, the functioning of the software is disabled. On perpetual license, if you stop updating (= stop paying), the software remains functional but without any further camera or OS updates. Net cost should be similar, longterm, but in the current Adobe example, it's a little higher to subscribe compared to the old Lightroom approx. 18-month update $$ model.
I am weighing subscribing to Lightroom for access to new features.
The new Lightroom competitors, like ON1 and Luminar, seem like they're...well...about 5 or 7 years behind Adobe in terms of the refinement of the software.
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The subscription model is more costly for LR but cheaper for PS.
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If I were professional photographer, I would never mind subscribing CC for 9.80 USD per month, and would think the fee is just fair.
The thing is that I'm not professional, I've never done or been in need of any of the batch process, I don't need catalog, and so on.
I enjoy panoramas, but ICE (Image Composit Editor) of Microsoft has been vastly improved over the years and doesn't look any inferior to Photomerge, so far as the resulted images are concerned. (I have to admit that converting the X-Trans RAW files to TIFF in Capture One before stitching is way more clumsier than Photomerge, though)
Also, the development of the digital cameras help reduce the need of extensive post process. In addition, the last versions of Capture NXD (with the reintroduced U-Point) I used was very good, and Capture One Express for my current Fuji cameras are simply amazing and extremely easy to use.