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Gear Talk => Camera Talk => Topic started by: Akira on March 10, 2021, 05:34:18
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Looks very much like D5/6.
https://www.nikon.com/news/2021/0310_z_01.htm
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I have no doubt Nikon will present a stunning tool with this Z9.
My question is if it will keep up with the competition in the AF department.
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Gimme that big battery. I liked only having to change the battery once a month with my former D3 cameras.
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I have no doubt Nikon will present a stunning tool with this Z9.
My question is if it will keep up with the competition in the AF department.
I agree, considering that Sony and Canon would be well ahead of Nikon in this department. The D5/6 style body should be advantageous in terms of the heat dissipation, though.
Gimme that big battery. I liked only having to change the battery once a month with my former D3 cameras.
I hear you, Keith. Even when I used smaller D7000 or D750, I was never in need of buying a second battery.
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Looks leaner than either D5 or D6, probably because the Z mount is wider, and proportions are altered.
Ciao from Massimo
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My "Donald Tr... eh, Duck" size comparison with the Z7.
I used the diametre of the shutter button to adjust size to "close enough".
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The compactness of an F6? Swell.
If it has the in-camera sound clip recording like the high-end D2/3/x/s etc., I'm all in.
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Looks pretty cool. A big Z.. ;)
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My "Donald Tr... eh, Duck" size comparison with the Z7.
I used the diametre of the shutter button to adjust size to "close enough".
Although they say final looks might be different, on the Z9-alleged photo I can see dedicated ISO and BKT buttons, and the usual flash cable and 10-pin cable connections, portrait mode dials and shooting button. Still no info on top ISO and pixel count, I'll assume twin memory card slots, exposure times up to 900 secs, and maybe the orientable rear screen...
BTW, practically same size as a Z7+extra grip (which is -alas- lacking the portrait mode buttons)
Ciao from Massimo
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*The appearance of the camera may differ from the photo shown above.
;D
I like it ;) The angle of the shutter button assembly looks similar to the DSLR's, very nice! Also I hope it has the illuminated rear buttons like the D850
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*The appearance of the camera may differ from the photo shown above.
;D
I like it ;) The angle of the shutter button assembly looks similar to the DSLR's, very nice! Also I hope it has the illuminated rear buttons like the D850
Look at the markings around the shutter…there’s a bulb :)
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My "Donald Tr... eh, Duck" size comparison with the Z7.
I used the diametre of the shutter button to adjust size to "close enough".
You can always count on the flash mount to be a standard size for comparisons.
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You can always count on the flash mount to be a standard size for comparisons.
There is a match wrt the hot shoe as well (within reasonable margins).
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There is a match wrt the hot shoe as well (within reasonable margins).
Yes, hot shoe is what I mean.
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Looks very much like D5/6.
So, looks like this years Olympic games will definitely be on then!
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The compactness of an F6? Swell.
If it has the in-camera sound clip recording like the high-end D2/3/x/s etc., I'm all in.
Yes...and, hopefully, external always-on displays for all the settings as the other pro cameras have had.
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So, looks like this years Olympic games will definitely be on then!
No way! :o :o :o
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So, looks like this years Olympic games will definitely be on then!
That is very funny, but also depressing for those wot live here and are paying the price for this nonsense both in financial and health terms :-( Covid is basically pushed under the carpet, in a quest to make Japan look safe enough for this nonsense.
I wonder if the Z9 will be ready in time. Maybe it will already be for sale at a discount by the time the ‘2020’ Olympics happen!
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That is very funny, but also depressing for those wot live here and are paying the price for this nonsense both in financial and health terms :-( Covid is basically pushed under the carpet, in a quest to make Japan look safe enough for this nonsense.
In 2019 people in the US, especially the elderly contracted influenza and then pneumonia as a complication. Many died of pneumonia. In 2020 influenza and pneumonia fell off the charts.
In 2019 Hydroxychloroquine, approved for the treatment of malaria for 65 years had an excellent safety record. If you traveled to a country where malaria is prevalent you took it before leaving. Then in 2020 Hydroxychloroquine would kill you.
In 2019 it was fine to tell people to take vitamin D and zinc to boost their immune system, not so in 2020.
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The idea of hosting the Olympic games in Tokyo without solving the problem with the damaged nuclear power plants in Fukushima was totally ridiculous in the first place.
Anyway, let us stop straying (sorry that I am to blame!) and go back to the main topic here.
At least in terms of the user interface, Nikon should follow the pattern of their flagship DSLRs which has been familiarized among the professionals.
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In 2019 people in the US, especially the elderly contracted influenza and then pneumonia as a complication. Many died of pneumonia. In 2020 influenza and pneumonia fell off the charts.
In 2019 Hydroxychloroquine, approved for the treatment of malaria for 65 years had an excellent safety record. If you traveled to a country where malaria is prevalent you took it before leaving. Then in 2020 Hydroxychloroquine would kill you.
In 2019 it was fine to tell people to take vitamin D and zinc to boost their immune system, not so in 2020.
I credit staying home and social distancing with the healthiest year yet. Usually I catch a cold or something, but this year nothing at all. Not commuting has been giving me extra hours in the day. Some changes are for the better.
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I wonder if the Z9 will be ready in time. Maybe it will already be for sale at a discount by the time the ‘2020’ Olympics happen!
From what I've read, if the Tokyo Olympics are not taking place in July this year, they'll be cancelled altogether and the next Olympics will be the Winter Olympics in Beijing in 2022, and Summer Olympics in Paris in 2024. This is partly because the Olympics affect broadcasting schedules and moving other events further to give space for the Olympics becomes just too difficult.
My guess is the Z9 would be announced in the fall so that they can say that "within the year" was accurate and gradually become available by the end of 2021 or early 2022. So at the 2022 Winter Olympics it might be in use. But, since it's seems it won't be a specialized sports camera but an allrounder, it might not be all that important whether it is used at the Olympics or not.
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Z9 is an interesting development. In the meantime, the présence or absence of the Z9 will not change the world.
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Z9 is an interesting development. In the meantime, the présence or absence of the Z9 will not change the world.
The only “flagship” Nikon I have is an F3, but the Z9 makes me think I may finally break the pattern of choosing something further down the lineup. So, while it won’t change the world, it may change me.
Meanwhile, I hang on with the Z6 with cracked and scratched rear display.
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Meanwhile, I hang on with the Z6 with cracked and scratched rear display.
What happened to your display, Jack? An accident?
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Whither be the Z8?
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What happened to your display, Jack? An accident?
Construction sites are treacherous and I slipped on some gravel. No real harm, it is just some scratches and a crack in the cover glass.
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Whither be the Z8?
Great question. There has to be enough distance in features and performance between the Z7 and a hypothetical Z8 for both to be viable, if there is even going to be a Z8. Given how close the Z5 is to the Z6, there's been speculation that the Z6 and Z7 classes will move up in features and performance in their next iterations. That would leave less space for a Z8, unless it goes off in a whole different direction like being a serious video camera. We'll just have to see.
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It looks like the Nikon naming convention for Z cameras is different from the F mount DSLRs:
- Single digit for FX models (Z5, Z6 .. Z9), and double digit for DX (Z50)
- higher number represents higher-spec (more professional) model, with Z9 being at the top. This is different from the F cameras where single-digit models (lowest number) were the pro cameras.
- to represent a new generation, the base model number stays the same with suffix added (Z6 -> Z6II). How will that be continued into the future - will we have Z6III, Z6.4, Z6.5 ? ???
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I could never get my head around the DSLR naming system - too many ranges! But the Z seems restricted by there being only one range. I wonder how the average 'consumer' made the right decisions when buying a DSLR.
Reminds me a little of Apple when Steve came back. A plethora of ranges and computers were cut down to relatively few.
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It looks like the Nikon naming convention for Z cameras is different from the F mount DSLRs:
- Single digit for FX models (Z5, Z6 .. Z9), and double digit for DX (Z50)
- higher number represents higher-spec (more professional) model, with Z9 being at the top. This is different from the F cameras where single-digit models (lowest number) were the pro cameras.
- to represent a new generation, the base model number stays the same with suffix added (Z6 -> Z6II). How will that be continued into the future - will we have Z6III, Z6.4, Z6.5 ? ???
Either they'll have to add suffixes, or get into HEX mode: Nikon ZA, ZB, ZC, ...
Some deviations from the line were encountered even in early Nikon Digital naming: there is no Nikon D2, they started off with D2H and D2X (and D2Hs/D2Xs)
Anyhow, they cannot have a model name longer than 5 characters, this would alter the in-camera folder naming system (unaltered since the D1):
Folder name is constant 8 characters long, format is nnn + NC_ + model name
You have three characters for the folder progressive number, starting from 100.
You have three padding characters NC_ (N + C + Underscore), being eventually overlayed by model number
You have the model name (2 to 5 characters), overlapping the padding characters when needed
Examples of folders:
987NC_D3 (folder 987 of a D3 camera)
102NCZ_6 (folder 102 of a Z6 camera)
101NCZ50 (folder 101 of a Z50 camera)
107D5300 (folder 107 of a D5300 camera)
118ND2XS (folder 118 of a D2XS camera)
etc...
Compact models, and waterproof ones (e.g. Coolpix 100-110-120-130-300 AW) will not have the model suffix in the folder name, names are still 8 characters long with a fixed "NIKON" padding, 100NIKON, 101NIKON, ...
Ciao from Massimo