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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on June 29, 2017, 17:51:25
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Well, when I was posting about projection lenses, there seemed to be quite some interest.
I also convert and use old cine lenses, so maybe there is some interest in that, too.
Let begin with some old russian glass...
LOMO OKC6-75-1 f2 75mm
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Well, what shall I say: very sharp, great colors, great bokeh, very cineastic,
I have to be careful not to use too many superlatives, as I'm quite taken by
this lens. A pleasure to use...
Full set is here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157682756453474/with/35572226916/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157682756453474/with/35572226916/)
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Amazing series, Klaus! I particularly enamored by the beautiful rainbow-colored flare. Yes, the lens is literally cinematic.
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Very interesting, crisp.
What is exactly the difference between Projection Lenses and Cine Lenses.?
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Very, very nice!
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Very nice rendering, Klaus, is this Lomo 2/75 a 35mm cine-lens or a 16mm ?
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Very nice, Klaus.
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Amazing series, Klaus! I particularly enamored by the beautiful rainbow-colored flare. Yes, the lens is literally cinematic.
Arigato domo Akira!
Here a special one for you... (I tried to provoke that)
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Very interesting, crisp.
What is exactly the difference between Projection Lenses and Cine Lenses.?
John, projection lenses were used to project movies on large screen to be viewed by an audience. Those are sharp and bright (i.e. have a low f-stop), yet have no aperture (iris) built in, nor a focusing mount.
Cine lenses are taking lenses for the production of films, have aperture (usually de-clicked) and focusing, ofter very fast lenses.
Very nice rendering, Klaus, is this Lomo 2/75 a 35mm cine-lens or a 16mm ?
Didier, this one was made for professional 35 mm motion picture cameras with up to 16 x 24 mm frame.
I also have others for 35mm and even 70mm film frame.
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Thank you guys! I will show others here, too
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A walk through the "Enchanted Forest", the Reissinsel in Mannheim using my
LOMO RO2-2M f2/75mm cine lens, the pre-predecessor of that OKC6-75-1 lens above.
Part I (I-III all shot wide open)
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Part II
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Part III
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Those are really amazing photos!
Is the lens modified to fit thr F mount or were they factory built f-mount lens?
Bern
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Those are really amazing photos!
Is the lens modified to fit thr F mount or were they factory built f-mount lens?
Bern
I modify all my lenses together with my mechanic; I plan, test and measure, he
does the work in his workshop
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Arigato domo Akira!
Here a special one for you... (I tried to provoke that)
Thanks, Klaus! Yes, that was what I meant. Apparently cine lenses are designed with all aspects of the aesthetics of the image rendition: sharpeness, bokeh and even flare and ghost!
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Thanks, Klaus! Yes, that was what I meant. Apparently cine lenses are designed with all aspects of the aesthetics of the image rendition: sharpeness, bokeh and even flare and ghost!
Not sure Akira if flare and ghost were "designed", guess it is just a side effect we
are used to seeing from older films, hence why modern, super optimized "sterile"
lenses lack character (i.e. flaws) and why there is a trend towards those lenses.
I quite sympathize with that trend... ;)
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Klaus, what formats do you have your mechanic set these lenses up for? M43 or other cropped sensor size?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks, Klaus! Yes, that was what I meant. Apparently cine lenses are designed with all aspects of the aesthetics of the image rendition: sharpeness, bokeh and even flare and ghost!
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The flare and ghost would be from single coating or no coatings. The bokeh in many is smooth and creamy. Maybe it's from under corrected spherical aberration.
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John, projection lenses were used to project movies on large screen to be viewed by an audience. Those are sharp and bright (i.e. have a low f-stop), yet have no aperture (iris) built in, nor a focusing mount.
Cine lenses are taking lenses for the production of films, have aperture (usually de-clicked) and focusing, ofter very fast lenses.
Thanks Klaus. The name 'Cine' is bit misleading. So basically it are lenses used on movie-camera's and mostly designed for a small format of film?
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Thanks Klaus. The name 'Cine' is bit misleading. So basically it are lenses used on movie-camera's and mostly designed for a small format of film?
Why would it be misleading, they are "cine" lenses as this denoted lenses being used for cinema film making, and you'll even find it printed on those lenses at times ("Cine-Fujinon" for instance etc.). Formats are up to 70mm film format, which I wouldn't call "small".
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LOMO OKC6-75-1 f2 75mm visits enchanted forest
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and on my way back, passed by this scene...
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Dear Klaus,
great pictures that you show us here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157682756453474
You still are chasing for exotic / and/or old glass and great pictorial results
best wishes from Austria,
Christian
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Dear Klaus,
great pictures that you show us here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157682756453474
You still are chasing for exotic / and/or old glass and great pictorial results
best wishes from Austria,
Christian
Well Christian, it seems more they find me, than me chasing them ;-)
But still, I love adapting them and trying to find out where they are at its best and appreciating the effort
and optical engineering skills which went into their making. And bringing those often neglected ones to
a new, digital life, brings a smile in my face! It is also in praise of the ones who once made them.
best wishes,
Klaus
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Took my freshly converted Lomo OKC4-75-1 f2.8 75mm for a spin after the rain.
Shot fully open on Panasonic GH4. This is a cine lens for 70mm film, covers FF.
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Full set is here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157686072015541 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157686072015541)
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Zart!
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You keep me wondered, Klaus!
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Thanks guys! I quite like the results myself!
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Sehr schön, Klaus ! A very nice transition between sharpness and out of focus zones ! Congratulations !
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Sehr schön, Klaus ! A very nice transition between sharpness and out of focus zones ! Congratulations !
Merci bien! I like it myself because of that!
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Very nice rendering, Klaus, is this Lomo 2/75 a 35mm cine-lens or a 16mm ?
Forgot to answer: the Lomo 2/75 is a 35mm cine lens