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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: Fons Baerken on June 03, 2017, 11:02:21

Title: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Fons Baerken on June 03, 2017, 11:02:21
Or rather trial and error with the Peleng 8mm f/3.5.
Bought this on a whim thinking of going circular on fx on the cheap, for these lenses go inexpensive compared to it competitors.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4212/34255328573_a0d55884d3_o.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4218/35026292216_427cb59ff2_o.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4228/35026292676_688ee06299_o.jpg)

flare is a major problem especially inner lens reflections, i have tried to mitigate the issue in post
but the inner flare on the bottom half of the images remains an issue.


Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on June 03, 2017, 11:15:43
Make a circular mask to solve the issue. Doesn't the Peleng draw a complete circle on your camera? Then, applying the mask might be even more useful.
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Fons Baerken on June 03, 2017, 11:20:04
Make a circular mask to solve the issue. Doesn't the Peleng draw a complete circle on your camera? Then, applying the mask might be even more useful.

Great, i will try that, i was surprised as well no full circle.
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on June 03, 2017, 11:40:40
Apparently the peripheral parts of the drawn circle have poor quality anyway, so it's not like you stand to lose too much information by a gentle circular crop.

The first Nikkor 8 mm f/8 also had too large image circle, 24 mm, for the 24x36 mm format and thus when slides were mounted, the upper and lower parts of the circle were cut off. Hence the appearance of the 7.5 mm soon thereafter, to project a slightly smaller circle. The 10 OP Fisheye despite a longer focal length has a different geometry and even smaller image circle, so no problem on any FX camera.
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Fons Baerken on June 03, 2017, 14:04:41
Thanks for the info, Bjørn, greatly appreciated,
so in all the 10,5mm f/2.8dx is the preferred lens for a circular image, of which the ears are clipped
Took a bit to figure to create a circle crop in ps

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4274/34904670402_5b25c8d7b5_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Jan-Petter Midtgård on June 03, 2017, 17:29:35
Here are some samples from the Sigma 8mm f/3.5 on a D810. It's a lot better than the Peleng, and it is possible to find a used one for a reasonable price.

 
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Fons Baerken on June 03, 2017, 18:28:19
Fine images Jan-Petter thanks for showing

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4203/34942043561_ccd699768c_o.jpg)

it takes some time getting to know the Peleng

field of barley

Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Jan Anne on June 03, 2017, 19:02:28
Please be aware that the mirror on certain Nikon bodies will hit the Peleng at infinity I believe.

If I remember correctly things worked did work fine though at the hyper focal distance and of course no issues on mirrorless.
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Jan Anne on June 03, 2017, 19:07:58
Here's a few of the crew on a trip in Norway in 2013, all on the D800E.

Selfie
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1589/25707137342_e6a59b20d8_o.jpg)

Erik
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1550/25527405670_eb6758890d_o.jpg)

Bjørn
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1650/25707134792_1dd466788f_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Fons Baerken on June 03, 2017, 19:36:27
So thats the Peleng as well Jan Anne?


(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4252/35034256156_c2f74abf7b_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Jan Anne on June 03, 2017, 19:39:01
So thats the Peleng as well Jan Anne?
Indeed it is :)
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: the solitaire on June 03, 2017, 22:40:40
quite impressed with the results of the Sigma
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: richardHaw on June 04, 2017, 04:07:18
this used be popular. haven't heard this name for a long time  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Jan-Petter Midtgård on June 04, 2017, 21:58:04
quite impressed with the results of the Sigma

Thanks.
For these images I used the Post-Crop Vignetting tool in Lightroom to create the "mask". Amount=-100 gives a black mask, and Amount=100 gives a white mask. The resulting mask becomes slightly feathered, which I think adds to the crystal ball look.
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Fons Baerken on June 04, 2017, 23:30:16
My impression the peleng is doing a better job on D500

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4251/35034603496_3b4d83e4f1_o.jpg)

casual clutter
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Jan-Petter Midtgård on June 04, 2017, 23:49:27
I think you are right. That must be because of the smaller sensor.
Title: Re: Peleng 8mm f/3.5 fisheye
Post by: Fons Baerken on June 04, 2017, 23:53:17
it shows center sharpness is allright, peripheral fall-off and flare on fx detoriates the image.