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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: Macro_Cosmos on May 31, 2017, 15:40:30
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Courtesy to https://nikonrumors.com/2017/05/31/nikon-announces-the-af-s-nikkor-28mm-f1-4e-ed-lens.aspx/
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Nikon officially announced the AF-S NIKKOR 28mm f/1.4E ED lens (this post is being updated, refresh this page for the latest version):
A 28 mm wide-angle fixed focal length lens that reproduces the natural expansion of a space
Consistently superior resolution, all the way to the edges of the imaging area, beginning at the maximum aperture
Beautiful bokeh that utilizes the speed (brightness) of the f/1.4 maximum aperture
Effective suppression of sagittal coma flare, often visible as the elongation or distortion of point images in night landscapes, for superior point image reproduction characteristics beginning at the maximum aperture
Adoption of two ED glass elements for effective compensation of axial chromatic aberration
Nano Crystal Coat adopted achieving effective reduction of ghost and flare for sharp, clear images
Sample photos (more here)
The Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 28mm f/1.4E ED will be available in late June for a suggested retail price of $1999.95. Pre-order links will be posted shortly.
More info available on Nikon USA website.
http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/camera-lenses/af-s-nikkor-28mm-f%252f1.4e-ed.html?icid=img_en_us:featured_lens:button:3:lens:AF-S_28mm:053117:newprod
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Must be difficult from now on to sell the old AF 28/1.4 at the bloated prices they sold for before the arrival of the new version :D
I have pre-ordered a review sample of the new model.
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It has a truly cinematic look.
I am actually most interested in this aspect:
"Adoption of three aspherical lens elements effectively suppresses sagittal coma flare for excellent point image reproduction, while the adoption of two ED glass elements provides effective compensation for axial chromatic aberration, and Nikon's exclusive Nano Crystal Coat effectively reduces ghost and flare."
COMA CONTROL YAY
Is it time for me to sell that Samyang 24/1.4? If Nikon delivers what it promises, this lens will become an astrolandscape photographer's dream! Sure, there's the Sigma 20/1.4 (bad coma), 14/1.8 (from test photos, also not too good in terms of coma), and the Samyang 14/2.4 (really good coma correction), I'd be happier with future-proof Nikon glass. I'm sounding a like a paid Nikon shill now haha. I'm so excited.
Hope this one doesn't flop. Hope it uses a ring SWM (doubt it though) as well.
My current list of best coma corrected wide angle lenses (from the best):
#1 Samyang 14 f/2.4
#2 Tamron 15-30 f/2.8
#3 Nikon 14-24 f/2.8 Samyang 14 f/2.8
#4 Nikon 20 f/1.8
#5 Samyang 24 f/1.4
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Must be difficult from now on to sell the old AF 28/1.4 at the bloated prices they sold for before the arrival of the new version :D
I have pre-ordered a review sample of the new model.
YES, indeed!
The old 28/1.4D is already a pretty solid lens, in my opinion. Pretty sharp wide open, beautiful rendering and nice colours (yeah I do care about colour rendering too).
Saw a new boxed one selling for $5555 AUD on Fleabay... just wow. They can be had at a cheaper price, ranging from $1300-1600 (USD) on the Chinese Taobao site. These usually have some little issues, cracked M/F ring and dented filter ring.
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The 28/2.0 AI/AIS is dead; long live the AF-S 28mm f/1.4E ED!
Dave Hartman who owns two 28/2.0 AIS Nikkors. Do I have to declare the pennies on their eyes?
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Back in 1978 when I was building my second Nikon system with multi-coated AI Nikkors they cost about $225 (1978 USD) each. Today's Nikkor primes should cost about $850.00. Should I be upset at a price of 2K for one stop and AF? :)
Dave
So many lenses and no money. Please send FREE time!™
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Back in 1978 when I was building my second Nikon system with multi-coated AI Nikkors they cost about $225 (1978 USD). Today's Nikkor primes should cost about $850.00. Should I be upset at a price of 2K for one stop and AF? :)
Dave
So many lenses and no money. Please send FREE time!™
I think old AI and AIS lenses offer a great value, but also think that for some people AF, improved contrast through nanocoat, improved sharpness, and weather sealing do offer substantial value. I'm not one to spend more than 2 kilobucks on a 28mm lens though.
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Today's Nikkor primes should cost about $850.00. Should I be upset at a price of 2K for one stop and AF? :)
Well you can get a 28/1.8 AF-S for that, and you get AF and nano coat as bonuses. Smooth manual focus is subtracted.
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Price in the Netherlands for the 28E is €2469. Even more expensive than the 105E (€2409). :(
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Keeping up with the Joneses (Nikoneses??) is becoming pretty serious business. Dangerous for any banking account.
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I was a little surprised by the AFS 28/1.4E, I didn't think there would be much market for such a lens bracketed so closely by the AFS 35/1.4, 24/1.4, and AFS 28/1.8. It does complete a lineup of f/1.4 primes from 24 - 105mm.
I would have put updates for the 135DC and AF 180/2.8 higher on the priority list...
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Oh yes, I would have loved to see a new 180/2.8. Could Nikon design it like the 300PF? That would be cool!
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Not sure a 180/2.8 would benefit much from PF, it is already quite compact.
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I was a little surprised by the AFS 28/1.4E, I didn't think there would be much market for such a lens bracketed so closely by the AFS 35/1.4, 24/1.4, and AFS 28/1.8. It does complete a lineup of f/1.4 primes from 24 - 105mm.
Me, too.
My wild guess for the next FP lens would be an unbelievably compact and lightweight 300/2.8.
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My wild guess for the next FP lens would be an unbelievably compact and lightweight 300/2.8.
It is not unlikely.
I have no doubt that the optical performance would be awesome.
The price will, no doubt, also be awesome.
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I had a feeling that the flare caused by FP/DO elements meant that Canon and Nikon would not use them on top tier telephoto lenses. They are used instead on slower telephotos, such as the AFS 300/4 PF and Canon 400/4 DO.
PF would be highly useful on a lens like a 400/5.6, if Nikon ever decides to make one...
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I had a feeling that the flare caused by FP/DO elements meant that Canon and Nikon would not use them on top tier telephoto lenses. They are used instead on slower telephotos, such as the AFS 300/4 PF and Canon 400/4 DO.
PF would be highly useful on a lens like a 400/5.6, if Nikon ever decides to make one...
The 300/2.8 is one of the main "battle fields" of the leading camera manufacturers like Nikon, Canon and now Sony. So, I wouldn't be surprised if they would employ their challenging technology to the design of this category. The conventional technology doesn't seem to improve a 300/2.8 any further at least in terms of the optical quality. They should need some ground-breaking breakthrough.
I would bet that the key is the drastic reduction of weight and size.
Now that all the super-teles of Nikon and Canon have been renewed, 300/2.8s are well due to be renovated.
A compact 400/5.6 seems nice, though.
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Oh yes, I would have loved to see a new 180/2.8.
Why not a 180mm f/1.4?
Dave 😈
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if it doesn what it claimed then this will be a dream lens for astrophotography! :o :o :o
the NOCT of the wide lenses ::)
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The 300/2.8 is one of the main "battle fields" of the leading camera manufacturers like Nikon, Canon and now Sony. So, I wouldn't be surprised if they would employ their challenging technology to the design of this category. The conventional technology doesn't seem to improve a 300/2.8 any further at least in terms of the optical quality. They should need some ground-breaking breakthrough.
Nikon at least can reduce the weight of their 300/2.8 by employing fluorite elements, as they have done with the larger telephotos.
Using a PF lens might further reduce weight and size, but there might be a penalty in optical quality which I don't think would be accepted in this class of lens.
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Nikon at least can reduce the weight of their 300/2.8 by employing fluorite elements, as they have done with the larger telephotos.
Using a PF lens might further reduce weight and size, but there might be a penalty in optical quality which I don't think would be accepted in this class of lens.
Yeah, I too don't think Nikon will use PF glass in their new 300/2.8. It will very very likely be similar to the 400/2.8 FL ED VR blahblah.
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Seems like a bit of CA in the centre, due to the highlights caused by the bulb. Looks like an easy fix as well.
Really interesting shot nonetheless. This 28/1.4 could replace my 24 and 35 altogether. Hope it's great!
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Lateral CA is unlikely to show up in the dead centre of the frame ... however, some artificial light sources have such a discontinuous output spectrum that the Bayer technology cannot handle the colours properly and some bleeding of colours are often seen.
The 28/1.4 certainly looks interesting and the 28 focal class has a devoted following anyway. These lenses don't just sit as intermediary between 24 and 35, they have an independent existence.
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I had a feeling that the flare caused by FP/DO elements meant that Canon and Nikon would not use them on top tier telephoto lenses. They are used instead on slower telephotos, such as the AFS 300/4 PF and Canon 400/4 DO.
The are are also bokeh issues; the 300/4 PF is not that great in areas in front of the focused subject. I think the fast tele primes are used by people who are very demanding in terms of all aspects of image quality and the weight savings on fast lenses would be less pronounced than on smaller aperture versions.
I do use the 300 PF a lot; it has its advantages and disadvantages. Sometimes the results are excellent, but conventional refractive optics designs are better when it comes to dim, low contrast light, in my experience.
I would expect a fluorite version of the 300/2.8 in the near future.
PF would be highly useful on a lens like a 400/5.6, if Nikon ever decides to make one...
Or a 500/5.6 maybe. I think 300 and 400 are too close to each other to use as a pair but 300 and 500 would be great.
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The 28/1.4 certainly looks interesting and the 28 focal class has a devoted following anyway. These lenses don't just sit as intermediary between 24 and 35, they have an independent existence.
I found with candid photographs of family in close quarters a 35mm could be not quite wide enough and a 24mm used too close gave that fiddler crab effect so I usually backed up a bit and cropped the 24mm back to a 28mm angle of view. I was usually shooting Tri-X and paid a penalty in grain. This and your review of the 28/2.0 indicating a special performance in flare and ghost overcame an old bias against the 28mm focal length.
Sometimes a 28mm lens is the best tool for the job. The 28mm is a valid focal length in it's own right.
Dave Hartman
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Back in 1978 when I was building my second Nikon system with multi-coated AI Nikkors they cost about $225 (1978 USD) each. Today's Nikkor primes should cost about $850.00. Should I be upset at a price of 2K for one stop and AF? :)
After adjusting for inflation, at least in the US the new 28mm f/1.4E is about 10% less expensive than the 28mm f/1.4D was when it was discontinued.
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After adjusting for inflation, at least in the US the new 28mm f/1.4E is about 10% less expensive than the 28mm f/1.4D was when it was discontinued.
Yeah, I agree.
The legendary (due to glass sniffing collectors) 28/1.4D range from $1500 to $5000 on fleabay.
It's a good lens, but I'm for sure not paying $3000 for it!
I did miss a somewhat used one for $700 though, oh well. Stuff happens.
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Picked up the link on Nikon Rumours. Here's a review with photos from Morocco
http://marinkovic-weddings.com/nikon-af-s-nikkor-28mm-f1-4e-ed-test-and-review/