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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on July 20, 2016, 08:19:43

Title: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on July 20, 2016, 08:19:43

Always ogled those, but was never convinced they could really be used on modern camera equipment,
as they were computed by four female scientists under Prof. Volossov at GOI /St. Petersburg for chip
making machinery, but I finally jumped and here now a few results using these...

The 2.8/105mm at work:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1697/25841287996_f227324e2a_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1522/25772246361_78a1bd5b88_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1453/25867333085_6256c0a462_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1573/25240769153_78a4031d87_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1531/25746406212_89680e6f5d_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1631/25841289006_8316515f8a_o.jpg)

(all shot full open...)

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on July 20, 2016, 08:21:13

Also converted the f4.5/150mm type, here used fully open:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1497/26259183041_3c4f777131_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1671/26299450356_fb571e6d7d_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1697/26325410715_d7081d7dce_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1582/26052545070_9c8004c5c1_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1702/26233000822_d0a93c1ef0_o.jpg)

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on July 20, 2016, 08:32:50

Then the 2.8/135mm version at work:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7464/26360672623_85578ac0dd_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7270/26360672563_36ec865c06_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7607/26359584634_e42475b9ac_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7704/26870982902_ee5d760c52_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7398/26870982692_61108b20e3_o.jpg)

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on July 20, 2016, 09:02:39

Why would "female" lenses be inferior? Your examples neatly illustrate the gender of the designer(s) is moot ...

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: richardHaw on July 20, 2016, 09:14:30

Its the russians again!!! :o :o :o

nice pictures. i especially loved the tiny white flower ::)

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on July 20, 2016, 09:40:54

Quote from: Bjørn Rørslett on July 20, 2016, 09:02:39

Why would "female" lenses be inferior? Your examples neatly illustrate the gender of the designer(s) is moot ...

Usually lens designers were males, so for me that they designed them was special. As an engineer when I started studying
it was just 4 out of about 400 students, and they were much brighter than their male colleagues. Later on I worked with one
of them and she once told me that as a female you had to be at least twice as good to make up with the males. It was a real
pleasure to work with her...

It was my type of a compliment.... ;-)

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on July 20, 2016, 09:42:16

Quote from: richardHaw on July 20, 2016, 09:14:30

Its the russians again!!! :o :o :o

nice pictures. i especially loved the tiny white flower ::)

Thanks, I guess you meant the Dandelion (Taraxacum) seedhead (last picture)?

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: richardHaw on July 20, 2016, 09:54:02

Quote from: Dr Klaus Schmitt on July 20, 2016, 09:42:16

Thanks, I guess you meant the Dandelion (Taraxacum) seedhead (last picture)?

yes, last picture :o :o :o
nice contrasty pictures

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Akira on July 20, 2016, 10:06:42

Klaus, even on my mediocre screen, the fidelity of the lenses can be felt.

In which mount are they originally made?

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Mongo on July 20, 2016, 11:21:20

some really excellent IQ. However, Mongo has no idea which lenses you are referring to. Can you please tell us the name or brand ?

sorry to have posed the question. It seems "GOI" is the brand and one Mongo has never heard of previously. Worth investigating on your posted results. It will be interesting to see how available they are and at what cost compared to comparable of other brands. Thanks you for this very interesting post.

PS - Mongo particularly likes so many aspects of #1

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 20, 2016, 12:16:34

Where can one buy these?
How did you convert them to "F" ???

The first picture is very touching and I love "countable hair" style resolution!°

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: elsa hoffmann on July 20, 2016, 15:46:21

Quote

Always ogled those, but was never convinced they could really be used on modern camera equipment,
as they were computed by four female scientists under Prof. Volossov at GOI /St. Petersburg for chip
making machinery, but I finally jumped and here now a few results using these...

soooo - how did you manage to get your grubby paws on these female lenses?   ;D ;D
I like what I see.

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: longzoom on July 20, 2016, 15:57:04

Quote from: elsa hoffmann on July 20, 2016, 15:46:21

soooo - how did you manage to get your grubby paws on these female lenses?   ;D ;D
I like what I see.

     As far as I remember - I used to work with Soviet (Russians) lenses -  there was not 105/2.8, but 100/2.8 Caleinar lens, Leica-copy optically, or even a little bit better, in Nikon mount, but terrible mechanically. Every my copy of that lenses needed to be open by me, fixed to be reliable.  So the rest of them, created by Russians Female engineers! LZ

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Andrea B. on July 20, 2016, 17:05:26

Klaus, you always find the most interesting lenses!
I really like the first photograph.

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: pluton on July 20, 2016, 20:02:12

Please show a photo of the lens(es) if possible.

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on July 20, 2016, 23:05:31

Quote from: Akira on July 20, 2016, 10:06:42

Klaus, even on my mediocre screen, the fidelity of the lenses can be felt.

In which mount are they originally made?

Arigato domo Akira! Rather large M76 screw mount. My mechanic and I designed/made a
focusing adapter for it/them, fits quite well.

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on July 20, 2016, 23:10:56

I'm not quite done getting those lenses (it is a series of different ones),
so bare with me that I won't disclose details by now, but will later ;-)

Not very common and a bit hard to locate, although I had one sleeping
here for many years, until a friend tried it out and the results blew me away.

And yes, they fit (or can made fit) Nikon-F mount rather easily!

Few more using the 105mm at midday sun...

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1463/25867332655_7ef1021f8e_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1589/25812996421_bfbbcc1d1f_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1592/25275219924_b25c1c2356_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1500/25812997031_8c55928ea0_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1695/25279235843_3c62762d27_o.jpg)

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on July 20, 2016, 23:19:02

Here a 2/80mm sister lens at work...

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5805/23742810181_65963db65e_o.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5828/23457340449_a7e9a9bcf2_o.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/646/23529604650_9040a4bbaa_o.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/612/23529603030_7e53548691_o.jpg)

wonder if someone notices what makes that one special ;-)

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: BW on July 20, 2016, 23:37:09

The total lack of onion rings. I love onion ring with dip ;)

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Andrea B. on July 21, 2016, 17:00:51

oh wow! Cool fotos from that 2/80. I love that third one.

Yes, please, some fotos of the lenses themselves.

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on July 23, 2016, 20:48:50

Quote from: Andrea B. on July 21, 2016, 17:00:51

oh wow! Cool fotos from that 2/80. I love that third one.

Yes, please, some fotos of the lenses themselves.

Thanks. I will if the time is right ;-)

Why does no-one see that this last lens is apochromatic??  :LOL:

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: arthurking83 on August 07, 2016, 03:16:52

Quote from: Mongo on July 20, 2016, 11:21:20

.....  It seems "GOI" is the brand and one Mongo has never heard of previously. Worth investigating on your posted results. It will be interesting to see how available they are and at what cost compared to comparable of other brands. Thanks you for this very interesting post.

....

I looked into this a while back when I was researching Eastern Block lenses.
That 'name' or reference to GOI isn't a brand, but refers to a Russian(State) Optics Institute.
Can't for the life of me remember what the G initial stands for tho!

Many manufacturers would either use the GOI(optics institute) to develop the optics, or sometimes develop them themselves and have the calculations confirmed by GOI.

So it's not a brand of lenses as such!

I think Klaus's reference to the females and Prof. Volossov at GOI / St Petersburg refers to this institute.

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: bjornthun on August 07, 2016, 04:01:54

GOI = State Optical Institute

State = Gosudarstvennii , hence the "G".

http://ns1.npkgoi.ru/index.html

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: arthurking83 on August 07, 2016, 04:40:50

There was no way my messed up, and completely cluttered mind would remember that name for the initial G! :D

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: the solitaire on August 07, 2016, 17:32:26

Not big on the rendering of the 80mm, but the 105mm is very impressive!

Title: Re: Russian Highest Resolution lenses
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on August 09, 2016, 11:21:45

The 105mm is my personal favorite, too!