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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: Fons Baerken on February 12, 2022, 13:13:13

Title: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: Fons Baerken on February 12, 2022, 13:13:13
Cosina is rumored to announce the first Z-mount lens: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2

https://nikonrumors.com/2022/02/10/cosina-is-rumored-to-announce-the-first-z-mount-lens-voigtlander-nokton-d-35mm-f-1-2.aspx/#more-166842 (https://nikonrumors.com/2022/02/10/cosina-is-rumored-to-announce-the-first-z-mount-lens-voigtlander-nokton-d-35mm-f-1-2.aspx/#more-166842)

Unfortunately its aps-c format only
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: MILLIREHM on February 12, 2022, 13:52:14
So yet another "50 mm lens". Too much overemphasized "standard" imho.
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: Jan Anne on February 12, 2022, 22:49:47
Sure, but the Voigtlanders come with a CPU for proper EXIF, aperture, focus distance communication and can trigger the focus assist automatically when desired.

The 40/1.2 full frame lens has a decent following in the Sony camp as it combines the perfect balans of the fast aperture, fantastic boke, sharpness, small size and smooth controls of an old skool lens combined with all the mentioned benefits of a modern lens.

There are plenty manual focus lenses out there like Laowa 35mm 0.95 but I am kind of done with lenses without a CPU.
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: MILLIREHM on February 13, 2022, 23:08:31
Got my first 40mm full format lens (The 40/2 Z pancake) and I really like it
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: Jan Anne on February 15, 2022, 22:40:17
The lens was announced today:
https://nikonrumors.com/2022/02/15/voigtlander-nokton-d-35mm-f-1-2-aps-c-mirrorless-lens-for-nikon-z-mount.aspx/#more-167017
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: John Geerts on February 16, 2022, 07:53:31
I find it very weird to introduce an APS-C lens  as the first lens on the Z mount.
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: Jan Anne on February 16, 2022, 08:35:32
I find it very weird to introduce an APS-C lens  as the first lens on the Z mount.
The fact that Voigtlander showcases the new lens on the Zfc is a pretty big clue why as there’s no denying that this is a very good looking combo :)

Other lenses will probably follow soon now that they’ve figured out the Zee CPU.

Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: Birna Rørslett on February 16, 2022, 10:13:45
The looks are to kill for (figuratively, of course). I must get that one for my Z fc.

It is interesting that more and more companies now launch new lenses for the Z format with the electronics to match. I never liked the return to the dark ages of uncoupled, non-automatic,  non-communication lenses with adapters  the mirrorless era brought with it.
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: Nikfuson on February 16, 2022, 11:23:17
On Cosina's webpage it states that the lens has been made with Nikon's blessing.
"*This product is developed and manufactured under a license agreement with Nikon Corporation."
I read it as Nikon is disclosing (some of) the lens/body protocol.

Link:
https://www.cosina.co.jp/voigtlander/en/z-mount/nokton-d35mm-f1-2/
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: Jan Anne on February 16, 2022, 12:57:34
Good catch Sten and very food news that Nikon is now officially opening up the mount :)

Cosina also heavily emphasized the need for a firmware upgrade on the camera side so the license agreement might involve more than just the use of the CPU chip, maybe it also includes in body lens corrections and such things.
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: John Geerts on February 16, 2022, 14:05:43
On Cosina's webpage it states that the lens has been made with Nikon's blessing.
"*This product is developed and manufactured under a license agreement with Nikon Corporation."
I read it as Nikon is disclosing (some of) the lens/body protocol.

Link:
https://www.cosina.co.jp/voigtlander/en/z-mount/nokton-d35mm-f1-2/
Sounds like very good news ;)

It's not unlikely Nikon 'ordered' an APS-C  lens first
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: aerobat on February 16, 2022, 21:05:06
This lens makes me want a Z fc...
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: MEPER on February 16, 2022, 21:21:02
The BW samples they have at the Cosina web page......they are not that interesting?
Photo_02 is OK.....but do you think the bokeh is very pleasant?
To me it looks a bit "strange".....and why nothing in color?

They are not in hi-res either so sharpness at 1.2 can be evaluated. But is probably ok thinking of the other Cosina lenses.....
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: John Geerts on February 16, 2022, 21:27:36
The fact that Voigtlander showcases the new lens on the Zfc is a pretty big clue why as there’s no denying that this is a very good looking combo :)

Other lenses will probably follow soon now that they’ve figured out the Zee CPU.
Very good looking, indeed !   ;)
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: Luc on February 16, 2022, 22:34:42
The BW samples they have at the Cosina web page......they are not that interesting?
Photo_02 is OK.....but do you think the bokeh is very pleasant?
To me it looks a bit "strange".....and why nothing in color?

They are not in hi-res either so sharpness at 1.2 can be evaluated. But is probably ok thinking of the other Cosina lenses.....
Nowadays if I want to see samples I check Instagram. In this case search with tag #nokton35mmf12xmount (the Fuji X version is optically identical to the Nikon Z version)
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: MEPER on February 16, 2022, 22:45:18
Thank you......I will wait until some images shows up here.......I am not on Instagram......or Facebook :-)
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: Roland Vink on February 16, 2022, 23:47:40
On Cosina's webpage it states that the lens has been made with Nikon's blessing.
"*This product is developed and manufactured under a license agreement with Nikon Corporation."
I read it as Nikon is disclosing (some of) the lens/body protocol.
Very interesting. Maybe Nikon was flattered by the Cosina lenses styled like old Nikkors, that they decided to let them inside. Cosina lenses are mostly niche manual focus lenses so unlikely to impact sales of Nikon lenses.
Of course there is also the 28-75/2.8 which is almost a rebadged Tamron, so it does seem that Nikon is opening up a little.
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: Hugh_3170 on February 17, 2022, 01:54:40
Let us hope so.

However this is not the first Tamron lens to be dressed in Nikon clothes - Tamron have built Nikon badged 70-300mm F-mount lenses in the past.  Still it is the first Z-mount Nikon badged lens made by Tamron. 

However why worry who builds it for Nikon if it does the job and meets Nikon's specifications?

.....................................
Of course there is also the 28-75/2.8 which is almost a rebadged Tamron, so it does seem that Nikon is opening up a little.
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: MEPER on February 17, 2022, 07:51:56
If it is a license agreement then Cosina pays something to Nikon......maybe pr. lens sold?
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: Erik Lund on February 18, 2022, 10:53:05
On Cosina's webpage it states that the lens has been made with Nikon's blessing.
"*This product is developed and manufactured under a license agreement with Nikon Corporation."
I read it as Nikon is disclosing (some of) the lens/body protocol.

Link:
https://www.cosina.co.jp/voigtlander/en/z-mount/nokton-d35mm-f1-2/ (https://www.cosina.co.jp/voigtlander/en/z-mount/nokton-d35mm-f1-2/)
Thx for sharing!
Very interesting to follow how this will evolve also regarding FX lenses
Title: Re: Voigtlander NOKTON D 35mm f/1.2
Post by: Wannabebetter on February 22, 2022, 00:06:27
The looks are to kill for (figuratively, of course). I must get that one for my Z fc.

It is interesting that more and more companies now launch new lenses for the Z format with the electronics to match. I never liked the return to the dark ages of uncoupled, non-automatic,  non-communication lenses with adapters  the mirrorless era brought with it.

Birna, I love it when you talk dirty... ::) But, seriously now, I couldn't concur more with your view (pun intended) on lens-coupling. And a Nokton on a Z-fc body? A hipster's dream, in the non pejorative sense, if ever there was one. (So says the idiot writing this, posting emoji shades  8), who hasn't shaved in three days - because it's kool.)