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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2017, 20:46:01 »
Maybe in the future Nikon will add stop down metering of manual lenses to D5600 successor as well; there should not be any hardware reason not to. ...

Nikon will only be convinced to allow this for E-type lenses.

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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2017, 22:00:12 »
It appears the positioning support holes and electrical connections for a vertical grip are missing from the D7500 base. Also no vertical grip is mentioned in the accessories section so far.
No vertical grip, one SD slot, no AI metering, tilt-screen ... the specifications seem closer to the D5xxx line (except it has front and rear command dials). Disappointing for what has traditionally been the "enthusiast" line of cameras.

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Center-weighted: Weight of 75% given to 8 mm circle in center of frame. Diameter of circle can be changed to 6, 10, or 13 mm, or weighting can be based on average of entire frame (non-CPU lenses use 8-mm circle)
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Spot: Meters circle with diameter of about 3.5 mm (about 2.5% of frame) centered on selected focus point (on center focus point when non-CPU lens is used)
This clearly suggests that metering is available for non-CPU lenses, and if the camera does not support AI, surely this can only mean stop-down metering. If so, lack of AI support wouldn't be quite so bad. No AI linkage should also mean pre-AI lenses can fit without modification, so this might be an advantage for some users, although I guess the number or photographers who still use pre-AI lenses is very small.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nikon makes similar decisions for the D610 replacement

In the end, it makes little difference to me since I am not in the market for an FX or DX camera. My D600 is performing well enough, my wife needs to replace her ageing D50, but we will look for a more compact camera, something like m4/3 with 14-140 zoom or Panasonic ZS100/TZ100.

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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2017, 22:25:13 »
Apparently D7500 is not intended as the successor of D7200.  They restarted the D7x00 series, as they had done with D750 which was not really a successor of D700.

Now I wouldn't be surprised if D650 (?) would turn out to be an FX version of D3x00...
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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2017, 22:39:50 »
The D7500 still has things important to me: pentaprism viewfinder (I will never buy a pentamirror model after having such pain with trying to see through the D70 VF); former top of the line AF system enhanced with group area AF mode, AF fine tune (with auto option), focus motor in the body, two command dials, and other high end features such as weather sealing, 8fps with 50 raw image buffer etc.

In many ways it is more advanced than the previous top of the line D300s which could only shoot 8fps in 12 bit mode, equipped by the battery grip. The group area AF mode is extremely useful for action in my experience. Nikon's new radio AWL is superb in my experience.

I don't think supporting all the lens types made in history is realistic at this level of body features vs. cost. Nikon has made just too many different variations of how the body and lens interface.

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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2017, 22:55:46 »
Now I wouldn't be surprised if D650 (?) would turn out to be an FX version of D3x00...
.. or D5x00, I think the flip-out touch-screen would be a popular feature

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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2017, 23:35:34 »
I don't think supporting all the lens types made in history is realistic at this level of body features vs. cost. Nikon has made just too many different variations of how the body and lens interface.

Also, the recent release of AF-P lineup should make the (in)compatibility issue even more complicated.

.. or D5x00, I think the flip-out touch-screen would be a popular feature

Yeah, I wouldn't completely rule out the FX version of D5x00, but D3x00 feature would be more realistic as the most cost-effective "entry level" FX body.
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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2017, 23:50:28 »
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nikon makes similar decisions for the D610 replacement
Is the D750 not the D610 replacement looking at the specs.?

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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2017, 00:50:45 »
No, the D610 is still a current model.

The D7500 specifications state that EFCS is indeed available in M-UP mode. Very good.

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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2017, 02:14:41 »
That is good news. It is going to be interesting to see if they have tweaked even more performance out of the D500 sensor.

There should be less chance of accidental opening of the SD card port than on my D7100. And of course there is no aperture coupling tab that can break...

It looks like the D7500 has an ever so slightly higher grip than my 7100, while weighing 135g less.


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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2017, 02:49:34 »
The new leatherette finish looks nice.

Further thought on the single SD card ... since cards now have more and more capacity, the the 20MP sensor will result in smaller file sizes compared to the D7200, I guess the capacity of one card should be sufficient. That still does not help for those who want two cards for backup in case one fails.

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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2017, 04:41:50 »
I fear the feature reductions make way for yet another prosumer line 9x00
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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2017, 04:53:37 »
Realistically what percentage of potential D7500 buyers will use AI and AIS lenses?

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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2017, 07:21:51 »
Here are other exciting new products from Nikon: newly designed stainless steel hot shoe covers:

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1054707.html

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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2017, 07:25:16 »
No AI coupling
No joystick
Only 1 SD slot
$1250??????


Yeah, such a great camera. Hope it's a success, so that I can finally get a D7200 used for a reasonable price!
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Re: D7500 - Nikon gives and Nikon takes
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2017, 08:01:08 »
Is Nikon considering to limit its manual focus lenses, ai and non-ai, to maybe a few specialist cameras, the Df2, or rid off it permanently, it has been my fear for some time now?