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Lens haze - What cause? Is that that bad?
Birna Rørslett:
Drop-like deposits from evaporated lubricants can sometimes occur, but these would be on the inside not the outside of the affected lens element. Sea spray can make similar deposits and these are on the outside. Can be tough to clean, through.
Early fungus spots can also appear in the described manner. They typically have a core surrounded by more loose web at least when the infection spreads further.
Store the lens under dry conditions and use it frequently in sunshine, that'll usually take care of the milder fungi-related issues. You should, however, consider cleaning the lens to get rid of the fungus as sooner or later it will adversely impact lens coatings (which supplies the "food").
Zang:
--- Quote from: David H. Hartman on January 14, 2021, 07:57:57 ---The haze or marks, are these on the inside or outside of the lens? is this a Nikkor lenses or other makers lens? Is the lens multi-coated or single coated?
I'll forbear guessing what this haze or these marks are until there is some clarification. Can you offer photos of the haze or marks?
Dave
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Hey Dave,
This is a good question. I can't definitely tell, but it seems like they are on the outer side. The lens is Contax Zeiss Makro-Planar 100mm f2.8 to be exact. The lens is multicoated. I'll try taking some picture later today, but it will be really hard.
Cheers,
Zang
Zang:
--- Quote from: Birna Rørslett on January 14, 2021, 09:48:51 ---Drop-like deposits from evaporated lubricants can sometimes occur, but these would be on the inside not the outside of the affected lens element. Sea spray can make similar deposits and these are on the outside. Can be tough to clean, through.
Early fungus spots can also appear in the described manner. They typically have a core surrounded by more loose web at least when the infection spreads further.
Store the lens under dry conditions and use it frequently in sunshine, that'll usually take care of the milder fungi-related issues. You should, however, consider cleaning the lens to get rid of the fungus as sooner or later it will adversely impact lens coatings (which supplies the "food").
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Hi Birna,
Without much experience and knowledge, My guess this is not fungus. The affected areas are of smooth and consistent shade. They are only visible under some angle of view. My old lenses from early 90's were stored for 20 years under my staircase and they still look crystal clear today.
Cheers,
Zang
Zang:
--- Quote from: oddb1ts on January 14, 2021, 09:42:20 ---Hi Sound like lens separation , the glue in lens gets old and starts to separate , causing a mist or fog, The nikon 35-70 f2.8 is bad for it , and most of the time the lens is great to use as long as you do not shoot towards the sun, this is where you will see the effect of fogging . Not sure if it is a growing problem for newer lens , but it would be for older lens.
I used to buy old lens at boot sales , some had some bad misting and cleaned up well , but some were glued and not so easy to clean and not worth the effort. some great old lens out there..
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Hi,
Looking at the design of the lens, I do not see gluing anywhere so that is ruled out.
Cheers,
Zang
David H. Hartman:
--- Quote from: Zang on January 14, 2021, 15:18:09 ---Hey Dave,
This is a good question. I can't definitely tell, but it seems like they are on the outer side. The lens is Contax Zeiss Makro-Planar 100mm f2.8 to be exact. The lens is multicoated. I'll try taking some picture later today, but it will be really hard.
Cheers,
Zang
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Zang,
If your lens were a Nikkor F-bayonet, EL-Nikkor enlarging lens or Nikkor-W, SW or M view camera lens from the 70's and later and probably most and maybe all from the mid 60's I would recommend using Regent Grade Anhydrous Methyl Alcohol as a lens cleaner. Please verify this as I'm not at home to check but I recall this form of alcohol was recommended in a Nikkor-W Instruction Manual that came with my Nikkor-W 210mm f/5.6 and other Nikon view camera lenses. Methyl alcohol should NOT be applied to any painted surfaces as it is or was the primary ingredient in Lacquer Thinner. I am not sure about plastics used in modern AF Nikkor lenses.
A counter indication: I used anhydrous methyl alcohol on a Schneider 135mm f/5.6 Componon-S enlarging lens with a vintage of 1973-74 and the methyl alcohol stripped the flat black paint between the filter threads and the glass surface. I smeared the black paint on the surface of the glass. It was easily cleaned off the glass and I re-blacked the area the paint came from. This is why I asked about the maker and age of the lens.
Multi-Coated lenses reflect less light from their surface compared to single coated lenses so minor impurities, smudges and swirls on the surface are more easily seen as these frequently reflect more light than the lens surface. A careful inspection of single-coated lenses can reveal that smudges and swirls are present.
When multi-coated lenses first came on the market people used soap based lens cleaners like Kodak Lens Cleaner and complained that multi-coated lenses were difficult to clean. In my experience they are not more difficult to clean when the correct lens cleaner is used. Distilled water was frequently recommended as a cleaner but distilled water is not a solvent of grease and oil so its effectiveness is limited.
Methyl alcohol is an aggressive solvent of grease and oil and regent grade methyl alcohol is 99% + pure and free of particles down to a few microns. It is expensive at around $30.00/500mm (USD). Methyl alcohol is an effective lens cleaner for lenses on which it is safe to use. I'm quite sure I've used methyl alcohol on a 1969 vintage 50mm f/1.4 Nikkor-S and other Nikkor lenses of that era with no problems.
Dave
Away from home, I've been using 91% isopropyl alcohol as a lens cleaner. Any comments?
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