Author Topic: Nikkor TC-20E III 2x Teleconverter  (Read 22683 times)

Kim Pilegaard

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Re: Nikkor TC-20E III 2x Teleconverter
« Reply #75 on: July 25, 2016, 17:20:54 »
The TC-20E III can give good results with the 500/4 AF-S VR as well. Here is a female Common Pochard (Aythya ferina):
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Re: Nikkor TC-20E III 2x Teleconverter
« Reply #76 on: July 26, 2016, 12:22:45 »
My goto lens combo if I need some reach is the 300AFI TC1.7 combo on either my D2Xs or D300 (well that is what I have :-)

If the subjects are closer I go back to D800/300 AFI

I often try the 2TCmkiii, but it does not take too long before the TC1.7 goes back on.
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Re: Nikkor TC-20E III 2x Teleconverter
« Reply #77 on: July 26, 2016, 19:44:50 »
holy moly Fanie - clear to me that gear doesnt count looking at this :)
okey it counts a little...
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Re: Nikkor TC-20E III 2x Teleconverter
« Reply #78 on: July 26, 2016, 20:03:09 »
I have had mixed experiences with the 2x TCIII. Not worth it in the end - so I moved it.
but sometimes it worked.
D3x + 200-400 (first generation) + 2 x TCIII
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Re: Nikkor TC-20E III 2x Teleconverter
« Reply #79 on: October 27, 2020, 03:33:44 »
I am reviving this thread as I recently acquired a used TC-20E III to use with my AFS 300mm f/4 PF E. While researching this TC I also came across the following discussion which I think can be useful for anyone considering different TC alternatives: https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=1202

My copy of the TC-20E III so far seems capable of providing  very good results when paired with a high quality lens of newer date like the 300PF (brief testing with my old AF 300 mm f/4 ED is a different story; I think that lens is better paired with the TC301), but of course naturally quite up to the level of my TC-14E. I have tested with AW1 and D500. While the 300PF alone does not require AF fine tuning, with the TC-20E III, +11 is needed for optimal results. [I have previously also not used AF fine tuning with my TC-14E, but when checked it now, I seem to get some improvement with +4.]  AF keepers and focus speed are certainly much lower than with the 300 PF alone, it seems that single frame shots get higher keepers than high speed shooting, where often only the first frame is optimal unless light is very good, even at 1/1000 sec shutter speed (my normal with this lens). Issue with handholding a 600mm lens could be part of that. I usually do not have problems locking the focus, even indoors. Most of my testing was in AF-C, 25 point dynamic and VR in sports mode, mostly handheld.


Here are some examples in better light, unfortunately a bit flat, but also the best results on my sometimes skittish test subject. First the uncropped frames:


NIKON D500, f/10 @ 600 mm, 1/1250, ISO 800


NIKON D500, f/10 @ 600 mm, 1/1000, ISO 1250

100% crops, they likely need to be opened in a new tab for full res. view unless you have a very high resolution monitor:







100% crop of Paper Birch bark:


NIKON D500, f/10 @ 600 mm, 1/1000, ISO 1400


What more often than not limits resolution is light levels this time of the year at my latitude, typically pushing ISO up in the 4000-6400 range, here an uncropped example:


NIKON D500, f/10 @ 600 mm, 1/1000, ISO 6400


I think distance performance very much depends on quality of the air. Here is Mount Hayes, 144 km (89 miles) south of Fairbanks. I have plenty of images showing a very blurry view of these mountains with the 300PF alone, while this capture was on a day with unusually clear and untroubled air, although still not perfect:


Another not quite so distant capture at dusk of the antenna dish at the university, a stitch of two horizontal frames:


(about ISO 1000, but shadows lifted at least one stop.)

100% crop of bottom frame (open in new tab for full resolution):



Finally a comparison to 1.4xTC. First out TC-20E III, both are full frames.


NIKON D500, f/10 @ 600 mm, 1/1000, ISO 6400


Then TC-14E. Note that inherently, the 1.4x converter has the aperture advantage that causes lower ISO to be used, which in turn affects resolution:





It should also be mentioned that TC-20E II stacked with TC-14E on the 300mm PF works quite well for astrophoto purposes (i.e. moon captures ) as exemplified in this thread:
https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=1867.msg163322#msg163322
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Re: Nikkor TC-20E III 2x Teleconverter
« Reply #80 on: October 27, 2020, 09:46:43 »
Thank you for your review, looking good!
Evaluating teleconverters is quite a task, since they often behave unpredictable with some lenses, similar to adding extension - Sometimes the results are fine even superb but often one is left wondering why it does not deliver the expected outcome.
Often the back ground suffers when using converters, here you have very neutral back gorund so much better even Bokeh.
Still some color artifacts are clearly visible in the highlight, first and third image.
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Re: Nikkor TC-20E III 2x Teleconverter
« Reply #81 on: October 27, 2020, 09:57:47 »

Thanks for the comment Erik. Yes, snow crystals can behave quite unpredictably, as they often consist of multiple point sources close together with different spectral colors.
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