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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2025, 09:01:13 »
The Septon looks like a pentagon shape with a little bit rounded blades.

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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2025, 19:39:46 »
Maybe Richard would be able to make rounded iris blades for the Nikkor-H 50/2?

https://richardhaw.com/2019/08/24/repair-fabricating-iris-blades/

I think I would be satisfied by one that has a fixed 5.6 aperture that were perfect round. It would work fine on Z-bodies. I have a number of the 50/2.
The old Voigtländer box camera I have the aperture consist of 3 different sizes of perfect circular holes that can be "rotated" into the right place.
An advantage of TLR/rangefinders that they do not need a stop-down aperture like most SLR's.

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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2025, 21:03:37 »
That's true. Most 50/2 lenses are not perfect in the bokeh-department ;)
After trying a number of different 50mm Nikkors I settled on the the AI 50/1.8 as having the best bokeh (and good resolution too). It has a 7-blade aperture so out of focus highlights in the background or foreground have a more organic 7-side shape. The background bokeh is also smoother without double-line blurs, although it gets worse towards the edges of the image. I never tried the 58/1.2 Noct but I gather that has good bokeh also.

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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2025, 21:59:21 »
My 58/1.2 has slept on a shelf for many years. It could be fun to take a walk some day with it on my Z50.
It is night now so only an indoor image was possible just for demonstration. The bokeh is quite nice.
The attached image shot at aperture f/2. The challenge is to hit focus where it should be.
I wonder how good IBIS works with pure MF lenses. No IBIS in Z50.

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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2025, 22:18:39 »
After trying a number of different 50mm Nikkors I settled on the the AI 50/1.8 as having the best bokeh (and good resolution too). It has a 7-blade aperture so out of focus highlights in the background or foreground have a more organic 7-side shape. The background bokeh is also smoother without double-line blurs, although it gets worse towards the edges of the image. I never tried the 58/1.2 Noct but I gather that has good bokeh also.

Yes, the 58/1.2 has a nice bokeh too, not just wide open. But the best in this department may be the Zeiss 50/2 (Milvus - much better coatings), and in all others as well. Only drawback was its size and weight. On the Df it used to be my top choice, then came the Summicron R 50/2 (alas, with outdated coatings, hence high flare potential) ; rendering is more subtle than the Zeiss; a classy lens. My third choice was the 50/2 AI, imperfect, but an "it" lens; its recessed front lens is a bonus outdoors. Then, the 50/1.2 AI which I used for street shots, esp. demonstrations and similar, don't ask me why.

For some reason I only recently got a decent copy of the 50/1.8 AI (together with an FE), but I did not use it extensively.
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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2025, 22:27:29 »
Here's another example of Noct Nikkor Bokeh (58/1.2 AIS, so 9 blades, @ f/2). No soap bubbles, no fringes, no outlining. Just nice brush strokes, both in front and at the back.
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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2025, 22:34:04 »
This is the Septon at f/2 (wide open) so it can be compared with the Noct a few posts back.

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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2025, 22:45:21 »
Nikkor-H here at f/2 (wide open). A version with rubber. K-version I think it is called. The "H" is not mentioned.

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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2025, 22:46:18 »
The background looks quite different, but apparently this is most due to a slightly different shooting angle, resulting in the reflection on the metallic bar becoming apparent, instead of being mostly masked by the camera. Otherwise the background bokeh is slightly more "edgy" with the septon or the Nikkor-H, compared to the Noct.
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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2025, 22:56:05 »
Yes, this is the native Z 50/1.8 S at f/2. Not bad either?   
I think this lens is cheap for what you get.

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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2025, 23:18:05 »
The classic Voigtländer 50/2 Ultron rangefinder lens for the Prominent camera. Probably a 1955 lens or so. Also here at f/2 (wide open).
Bokeh quite good. Good on all lenses but some has just a bit more creamy look.

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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2025, 23:40:24 »
Leica DR Summicon at f/2 (wide open). Also a lens from 1955 or so.
Seems to be difficult to make a 50mm lens with really bad bokeh.

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Re: Voigtländer Septon 50/2 on Nikon DSLR
« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2025, 23:45:16 »
I think the noct wins the bokeh competition based on these snaps. It also has the +8 mm of focal length bagground isolation advantage.
To be able to compare these lenses for real a more controlled setup is needed. This was just some fun made quick and dirty a late night :-)