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Re: Bluebells
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2017, 03:50:09 »
2 and 3 are beautiful

great contrast of the greens and the flowers
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Re: Bluebells
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2017, 08:41:22 »
I wonder what you could have done with your Heligon...

The place was lovely, there are so many flowers that the air is filled with their soft, fresh scent.

I'll definitely be back for more in the next days.

I would 42 Heligon the bluebells then pinch a 100 Heligon and then I would add a touch of DC type 135 ;)
Looking forward to seeing more!
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Re: Bluebells
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2017, 23:46:34 »
Looking forward to seeing more!

And now I can satisfy your request :)

The first three are from the same place as earlier.
Taken yesterday morning very early, I also had a lucky wildlife encounter.

The second series of three are still from yesterday, but in the afternoon and in a different place (Marbury Country Park).
What an excellent choice it was to take a day off work!
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Re: Bluebells - more images added
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2017, 00:20:28 »
Second series imo. surpass first one - great images.

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Re: Bluebells - more images added
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2017, 00:21:35 »
The last one with the Red Campion in front is excellent.

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Re: Bluebells - more images added
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2017, 08:08:11 »
Second series imo. surpass first one - great images.

Thank you Lars, I agree.
Shooting bluebells is an unexpected and interesting learning exercise.
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Re: Bluebells - more images added
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2017, 08:11:32 »
The last one with the Red Campion in front is excellent.

Thanks.
I was wondering what was the name...

While we are here, I have another botanical question.
Occasionally I see patches of what in all respects (flower shape, leaves, stem, etc) look like bluebells, except the flower is completely white.
Is this a different subspecies, some form of albino bluebell, or what else?
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Re: Bluebells - more images added
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2017, 08:20:51 »
Thanks.
I was wondering what was the name...

While we are here, I have another botanical question.
Occasionally I see patches of what in all respects (flower shape, leaves, stem, etc) look like bluebells, except the flower is completely white.
Is this a different subspecies, some form of albino bluebell, or what else?

We need a picture. While there are albino forms of almost any flower, other alternatives exist as to an identification.

Just colour variations are never regarded as infraspecific taxa. For a subspecies there are a bundle of differential characters.

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Re: Bluebells - more images added
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2017, 11:02:10 »
Thank you Lars, I agree.
Shooting bluebells is an unexpected and interesting learning exercise.

I agree with Lars, and also with your own comment. Shooting a bluebell wood successfully is quite difficult - the silence, the peace, the fragrance and the powerful but subtle colouring - how to translate all these aspects into a photograph is quite a challenge.

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Re: Bluebells - more images added
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2017, 11:32:49 »
I agree with Lars, and also with your own comment. Shooting a bluebell wood successfully is quite difficult - the silence, the peace, the fragrance and the powerful but subtle colouring - how to translate all these aspects into a photograph is quite a challenge.

... in fact, like with any flower than occurs in abundance and puts its stamp on the habitat. Should one or a few be singled out or should the mass impact be recorded and contrasted to the environment?  In my country, mass occurrences of Wood Anemone, Dandelions, or Cuckoo flowers are typical examples. I've done them with all kinds of lenses from fisheyes to 1200 mm.

Sometimes a tilt-shift lens provides an elegant optical solution to the question addressed above.

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Re: Bluebells - more images added
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2017, 14:49:16 »
... in fact, like with any flower than occurs in abundance and puts its stamp on the habitat. Should one or a few be singled out or should the mass impact be recorded and contrasted to the environment?  In my country, mass occurrences of Wood Anemone, Dandelions, or Cuckoo flowers are typical examples. I've done them with all kinds of lenses from fisheyes to 1200 mm.

Sometimes a tilt-shift lens provides an elegant optical solution to the question addressed above.

Funny that you mention it, because I have been experimenting, among other things, with TS lenses.
I have used a Hartblei 45mm superrotator, but I am finding it a bit soft, not sure if it is my lack of skills or the lens, which also is full of CA.
I am also trying - and loving - a Nikkor 75mm PC for Bronica, on its dedicated Bronica TS bellows (type II). This lens is surprisingly good, but mastering the movements is hard.
I just got also a Nikkor O 50/2.8 for Bronica, but have not had yet the time to try it, maybe later today. Pity that wide lenses for MF format are not so wide in FX or DX (it goes without saying...) AFAIK there is nothing wider than 40mm for Bronica.

There are two main scenarios I have been working on, as mentioned by Bjørn: either focus on detail, or show a colourful carpet.
In the first case one looks at subject isolation, narrow depth of field and probably colour and/or exposure contrast to separate and isolate the subject.
For the second application I have found that being slightly low is better to show a carpet of an uniform, non-green colour.
This is also best achieved with a longer lens, which in turn requires to makes decisions on where to focus and on managing the depth of field. Showing a blue carpet is nice but one also needs an interesting setting and background.
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Re: Bluebells - more images added
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2017, 15:13:56 »
Simone, Thanks for sharing your images I really enjoyed them
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Re: Bluebells - more images added
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2017, 19:32:27 »
Yes, the second series looks more to the point and its variation is more enjoyable!
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Re: Bluebells - more images added
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2017, 20:26:32 »
We need a picture. While there are albino forms of almost any flower, other alternatives exist as to an identification.

Just colour variations are never regarded as infraspecific taxa. For a subspecies there are a bundle of differential characters.

White and blue bluebells from the flower beds in my garden.
Merely documentary shots, SOOC Jpegs shot with the recently acquired Nikkor O 50/2.8 for Bronica

Now that I look again at them I am thinking maybe they are something different. I must also investigate the other "white bluebells" I have seen elsewhere.
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Re: Bluebells - more images added
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2017, 20:29:09 »
Thank you both, Armando and Akira.
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