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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #120 on: April 13, 2016, 20:32:36 »
Wanted for making a mess and not cleaning his room ;D It´s a lot of fun and all the proper gear has been neglected for a few days. I love making pictures slow and steady.

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #121 on: April 13, 2016, 22:23:06 »
Exit D40X. Enter D3200.

Today's Tussilago.

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #122 on: April 13, 2016, 22:53:44 »
I love those small flowers :) Is that done with a flash and a wide angle?

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #123 on: April 13, 2016, 22:59:49 »
Tamron 21 mm f/4.5 and the SB-140 flash.

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #124 on: April 13, 2016, 23:44:14 »
A quick search, gave me the impression that it is not an easy lens to get hold of.

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #125 on: April 13, 2016, 23:46:59 »
It goes by a number of alternate 'brand' names. Still, not the most common lens out there and as it is old, many specimens are pretty beaten up.

Should you get hold of one of these, remove the rear filter otherwise you won't get much UV through it.

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #126 on: April 13, 2016, 23:55:27 »
Børge, that sepia version is terrific!

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #127 on: May 15, 2016, 12:47:51 »
Brook flower, Caltha palustris showing of some concealed patterns.

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #128 on: May 15, 2016, 12:50:11 »
Anemone nemorosa, Wood anemone, appear quite different under UV.

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #129 on: May 15, 2016, 14:05:55 »
For any one interested in, or working with, UV photography, one of the biggest conceptional  hurdles is the notion that all colours are false by definition. Neither camera nor processing software is aware of this fundamental fact, though. Furthermore, personal preferences, the filter(s) applied, and the manner in which images are developed, all will have a huge impact on the colour palette that results. The final colours are not 'right' or 'wrong', after all they are genuinely false; they are just different.

For a good deal years now, Andrea and I have advocated a certain approach to the balancing of UV 'colours' to make the output from different cameras easier to compare in a botanical context.  This scheme typically involves a filtration capable of transmitting a large portion of the 300-390(400) nm UV(A), keeping IR contamination to a minimum, and colour-balancing against a target having uniform (flat) reflectance across the recorded UV spectral band. A white Teflon/PTFE disc will do fine, but one should note that a grey disc of the same material should also record neutral. Many RAW converters can do a white balance against the [UV-]white disc, but fails to achieve a neutral balance otherwise. PhotoNinja is the reference program here as it does the UV-white balance perfectly. Andrea uses Capture NX2/NX-D, which I never managed properly myself. ACR apparently fails, as do Aftershot 2/3. It is noteworthy that the broad-band converted Panasonic GH-x can set the correct colour balance directly in camera, a feature which becomes most useful for UV video recording.

I'll dive into my archives and pull some examples of the same species Børge has shown us, just to illustrate the variation in appearance typical for UV imagery.

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #130 on: May 15, 2016, 14:23:11 »
As promised, some examples of Wood anemone Anemone nemorosa,  a common species all over our country. For a short period in April and early May, the dense carpets of white flowers turn the forest floor into a echo of the show pack existing there only weeks before.

These images are taken 4 years apart using different cameras, yet the overall UV w/b is remarkably similar. We observe that cameras as different as Nikon D40/40X, D200, D3200, D3,  Pentax K-1, Panasonic GF-1, GH-2, and Sony A7R, all can render these scenes in a similar manner if the prescribed procedure for UV w/b is followed (including the software recommendations).

The "dusty" areas of the tepals shown in the close-up (#2) are caused by an aggregation of so-called Conical cells, a feature UV depicts with remarkable clarity and that is virtually impossible to observe in visible light unless magnification is increased by an order of magnitude or more. The conical cells are believed to be an important feature in the relationship between flower and its pollinators.

Whether one should wish for a reproducible UV colour palette is another question. As stated earlier, these are true false colours. For the scientific approach to UV photography I would recommend a standardisation, every where else it should be a question left to the photographer and his/her vision.

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #131 on: May 15, 2016, 14:23:51 »
These photos are off course developed to my liking and I was not aware that there was a way of setting the wb to a uniform value. I'm just playing around here in an entirely different universe :)

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #132 on: May 15, 2016, 14:29:50 »
My recent posts were in no way meant as a criticism of your work, just to add to the understanding of what UV photography entails, and why the results are so seemingly different between various photographers.

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #133 on: May 15, 2016, 14:36:08 »
The final examples, of Marsh Marigold Caltha palustris. The Baader U ('Venus') filter of the latest generation used throughout.

First, this time taken with a Panasonic GH-2 and Coastal optics 60 mm f/4 APO lens. Like the Wood Anemone pictures shown earlier, this is obtained under daylight conditions, and UV w/b set against a Teflon disc.

Second is obtained with Nikon D3200 and the Nikkor 18 mm f/4 AI. It is not easy to find wide-angle lenses with acceptable UV performance, however the old 18 mm Nikkor is among the selected few.

Do note again the striking similarity of UV appearance of this species across different cameras and lenses.

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Re: [Theme] Pictorial UV
« Reply #134 on: May 15, 2016, 14:50:39 »
Excellent Bjørn! Love the tufts with Caltha. I guess their proper english name is Marsh Marigold :)