Author Topic: Do You Prefer Rendering Of "Vintage" Nikon Cameras To "Modern" Nikon Cameras?  (Read 9335 times)

John Geerts

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 9250
  • Photojournalist in Tilburg, Netherlands
    • Tilburgers
The second is also sharper, so that could be the Zf.  First one looks like the D1x

MEPER

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 1168
  • You ARE NikonGear
Yes, 2nd has more resolution and less artifacts so must be Zf :-)

Akira

  • Homo jezoensis
  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 12638
  • Tokyo, Japan
D1x first, because of the jagged lines on the roof rails?

Ditto!
"The eye is blind if the mind is absent." - Confucius

"Limitation is inspiration." - Akira

ColinM

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 1891
  • Herefordshire, UK
    • My Pictures

For many scenes, the difference isn't that great.

I'm concerned
For the last 5 months, nearly all the photos Birna has taken in Noway have contained snow.
Suddenly these don't.

Bright sunshine in each image seems suspicious!
 :P

Birna Rørslett

  • Global Moderator
  • **
  • Posts: 5422
  • A lesser fierce bear of the North
Yes, you are correct, Bruno. However, if such delibate attempt to disclose the nature of sensor had been avoided, telling the two cameras apart -- based on the sensor outcome - had been more difficult. Given they are separated by two decades of techology development, that is some food for thought.

Birna Rørslett

  • Global Moderator
  • **
  • Posts: 5422
  • A lesser fierce bear of the North
Colin, we had the last snowfall three days ago .... however, any snow will very quickly disappear as night temperatures have climbed above the freezing point.

Bruno Schroder

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 1637
  • Future is the only way forward
I agree Birna, I had to look for a clue. Without the question, I would probably not have noticed the difference.
BTW, this thread, particularly the comments about the colors, made me look for a D1x, which I just found at 50€. I’m eagerly waiting to use it.
Bruno Schröder

Birna Rørslett

  • Global Moderator
  • **
  • Posts: 5422
  • A lesser fierce bear of the North
You'll need a charger and working batteries as well :) I gave up finding my old MH-16 charger, only found a car charger, on first search. So purchased a MH-15 and 2*Li-Ion battery packs for a total of (equivalent) 120 Euro. I already had the camera, plus the various other D1/D2 versions. For the D2H/X I have chargers and batteries, just remains to test the packs are in working order. Hopes are not very high and if they fail to charge properly, I let my revival of the vintage Nikons end with the D1X.

It's interesting to put modern AFS/G lenses on the D1X and learn they work -- now, that is backwards compatibility !!

Bruno Schroder

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 1637
  • Future is the only way forward
The body comes with a  charger which used to work till the battery died and I found another original charger and 3 batteries, one original declared dead by the seller but with two replacements working. Testing scheduled for next week, I’m visiting a friend in Provence this week.
Bruno Schröder

Bruno Schroder

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 1637
  • Future is the only way forward
Comparing the D1x and the D500. Same lens, ISO, stop, speed, exposure compensation, WB. Pictures taken handheld right after moving the lens to the other body.
Two differences though: AdobeRGB on D1x and sRGB on D500, which I notived after the fact, and Picture control: NXStudio only has Original Value for the D1x (Hue adjustment was set to 1 FWIW). I first used Standard on the D500 then D500 Neutral as 3rd picture
Bruno Schröder

Akira

  • Homo jezoensis
  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 12638
  • Tokyo, Japan
Comparing the D1x and the D500. Same lens, ISO, stop, speed, exposure compensation, WB. Pictures taken handheld right after moving the lens to the other body.
Two differences though: AdobeRGB on D1x and sRGB on D500, which I notived after the fact, and Picture control: NXStudio only has Original Value for the D1x (Hue adjustment was set to 1 FWIW). I first used Standard on the D500 then D500 Neutral as 3rd picture

Interestingly, D1x in AdobeRGB looks more vivid than D500 in sRGB, which can be counter-intuitive?   The translucent petals of the D500 Neutral image look pleasing.
"The eye is blind if the mind is absent." - Confucius

"Limitation is inspiration." - Akira

Dogman

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 476
  • You ARE NikonGear
To my eyes the D1x looks lush.  The D500's pumped up contrast doesn't do justice to the subject.  The third image just looks flat.
"If it's more than a hundred feet from the car, it's not photogenic."--Edward Weston

My Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/197057338@N03/

Bruno Schroder

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 1637
  • Future is the only way forward
I also prefer the D1x image but to compare on an as much as possible equivalent basis, I did not edit the picture, except for the exposure compensation and a bit of sharpening, the same amounts for all pictures.
I’m not a fan of the Standard Picture Control. I usually shoot Neutral and adjust in post, which I didn’t do here. I also have no idea of what the D1x hue parameter means but Standard and Neutral looked closest to me. I’ll test further, varying it.
I am also surprised by the strong difference in the greens, I did not expect that much of a change.
Bruno Schröder

MEPER

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 1168
  • You ARE NikonGear
Image no. 2 has a yellow color cast. 1 and 3 are more equal regarding color. Why is no. 2 so yellow?
Image no. 3 has less contrast (much more "black" in no. 1 than no. 3). The histograms should show the differences?

John Geerts

  • NG Supporter
  • **
  • Posts: 9250
  • Photojournalist in Tilburg, Netherlands
    • Tilburgers
Nikon D1x  AF-D 50/1.4