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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2021, 08:20:34 »
https://www.nikon-image.com/products/nikkor/zmount/nikkor_z_mc_50mm_f28/sample.html

https://www.nikon-image.com/products/nikkor/zmount/nikkor_z_mc_105mm_f28_vr_s/sample.html

the photos look beautiful (of course, its a promotion) ::)

damn, so many elements and the designs are unrecognizable :o :o :o

the 50/2.8 @ f/22 looks stunning but i am interested to see if the 105/2.8 is any better since the last version sucks...definitely 2-stops behind the AFD when it came to diffraction. i will never use that beyond f/11
The image rendering of the 105mm looks very similar to Voigtlander APO Lanthar 125mm - specially the front oof areas and how tones blend
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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2021, 08:21:21 »
well, the press release mentions that the 50/2.8 will have informative display like reproduction ratio etc but there are no LCD's...where will they be shown? in-cam? if not then it's at the barrel...no IF, booooo :o :o :o (not cheap)

The barrel extends and shows markings for reproduction ratio etc.

I can see this as a good compromise for making the lens more compact when focused at longer distances, but an internal focusing lens would probably be more rugged, or at least give that impression. No nano coating in the 50 MC so in two ways it seems a downgrade from the AF-S Micro 60mm (which is my favorite). However dpr samples show quite round out of focus highlights so maybe there is reduced cat's eyes (would need to test with similar subject and conditions to be sure).

I can see that in several Z lenses Nikon have gone for collapsing designs; this makes some sense if the objective is to make the kit as compact to pack for travel as possible. However, internal focusing and internal zooming lenses are enjoyable to use and at least for me they are easier to be confident about.

Nice to read that the 105 has little focus breathing according to Nikon's web page.

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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2021, 08:36:55 »
not sure. around $1,000 for the 105 and $700 for the other one :o :o :o
Very affordable price point for the 105mm IMHO
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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2021, 08:42:31 »
Reminds me of the ugly duckling; the first AF Micro 55mm Trumpet version  :o :o :o   
Looks like it does have an "informatory display"  ;D ;D ;D

hey, i love that lens ::)
the printed information just made this look cheap...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RJh7VZrjA4
here's a video :o :o :o

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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2021, 08:44:50 »
do note that the 50/2.8 is not an S line so the slight erection may be forgiven but at that price nikon is asking for a lot...$800 here in japan :o :o :o

and....

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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2021, 09:00:05 »
At last a Micro-Nikkor with really good control of chromatic aberrations? That would be a first.

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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2021, 09:04:04 »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKSezJxbXPo
from adorama, not even 3min published :o :o :o


from BH (pre-order):
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    $996.95

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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2021, 09:32:40 »
I'll pre-order the 105. RRP was quite acceptable, for once.

I do hope Nikon can put production into proper gear so as to deliver the new lenses without too much delay.

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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2021, 09:41:21 »
I'll pre-order the 105. RRP was quite acceptable, for once.

I do hope Nikon can put production into proper gear so as to deliver the new lenses without too much delay.

i'd pre order the 50/2.8 but they wont ship to japan :o :o :o
i will buy a Zeiss flektogon instead ::)

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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2021, 10:08:01 »
I buy from a national dealer ....

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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2021, 10:15:40 »
why not buy the 50/2.8??? :o :o :o

i may just wait for the rebates ::)

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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2021, 10:39:46 »
No online pre-orders or EU price available here in Denmark yet - Half the price of an APO Lanthar- I'll for sure try it out.
I see some focus breathing quite clearly from Ricci's video
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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2021, 10:43:23 »
No online pre-orders or EU price available here in Denmark yet - Half the price of an APO Lanthar- I'll for sure try it out.
I see some focus breathing quite clearly from Ricci's video
thats going to suck when focus stacking. i read in the official site somewhere that mentioned something that will help with focus stacking, i think its about the STM or something else ::)

i am more excited with the 50/2.8 but i will not buy that at the current price. besides, i already have more than 30+ micro-nikkors of the same class :o :o :o

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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2021, 10:54:38 »
I see some focus breathing quite clearly from Ricci's video

True, I was merely repeating what Nikon says on their web page. ;-) In Ricci's video in the longer distance range there seems to be a lot of picture angle change as the focus distance changes, but is it there also in the close-up / macro range?

On Nikon's page

https://www.nikon.co.uk/en_GB/product/nikkor-z-lenses/auto-focus-lenses/fx/single-focal-length/nikkor-z-mc-105mm-f-2-8-vr-s

In the section on macro videos: "Macro video Benefit from quiet AF and smooth, stable aperture control. Focus breathing is all but eliminated so you can shift focus without affecting the shot's angle of view."

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Re: micro-nikkor Z
« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2021, 11:07:53 »
What is the focus throw on each of these lenses?  How APO are they? So, the 50mmis not an “S” lens? Are there any MTF charts available yet?

Are these focus-by-wire or traditional focusing?
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