Author Topic: Will Nikon Re-Invent the AI-S?  (Read 16795 times)

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Re: Will Nikon Re-Invent the AI-S?
« Reply #75 on: March 24, 2018, 05:20:03 »
Longzoom, you're in good company with the 28-300!  I read that the 28-300 is Jay Maisel's favorite lens, pretty much his only lens, and he loves it.

I'm starting to feel tempted by this lens, I prefer primes but I have been recently enjoying my 24-85mm VR....wouldn't a 28-300 be three and half times more enjoyable? 

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  Do not know, for sure, about the joy,  but take a look at MFloyd's or mine,  on the page 5 here, big topic about the lens. Enjoyable enough, I'd say.  THX!  LZ

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Re: Will Nikon Re-Invent the AI-S?
« Reply #76 on: March 24, 2018, 06:50:22 »
I can't see Nikon re-entering the manual focus lens market in general, but I was a bit surprised that they didn't do something like an special edition 105mm f/2.5 for the 100th anniversary.
That would have been Sweet  :)
FWIW is use both Ai and Ais on Sony a7rii, with stacked adapters, for AF (and MF).  Hold up very well with 42MP but mainly use on the Df.   I am very fond of the FL so maybe a 105 f1.8 will come along at some point.
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Re: Will Nikon Re-Invent the AI-S?
« Reply #77 on: March 24, 2018, 09:40:19 »
I can't see Nikon re-entering the manual focus lens market in general, but I was a bit surprised that they didn't do something like an special edition 105mm f/2.5 for the 100th anniversary.

Just wait for their 105th anniversary…
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Re: Will Nikon Re-Invent the AI-S?
« Reply #78 on: March 24, 2018, 10:15:00 »
Just wait for their 105th anniversary…

Unfortunately, the "105" was taken by that f1.4 lens.  Maybe 135th...  :P
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Re: Will Nikon Re-Invent the AI-S?
« Reply #79 on: March 24, 2018, 15:16:17 »
  Do not know, for sure, about the joy,  but take a look at MFloyd's or mine,  on the page 5 here, big topic about the lens. Enjoyable enough, I'd say.  THX!  LZ

Those are two great discussion threads, I had seen them before, but enjoyed taking a second tour.  I'm of a mind that you guys (and Jay Maisel) have it going on with that lens.  I saw another review online by Ming Thein who like Jay Maisel also replaced his 70-300 with the 28-300, and Ming is pretty picky about his gear.  Looks like Nikon came through with a good one here.

I've got an eye on the new 70-300mm AF-P VR (FX) lens, the reviews seem to be very good, even Thom Hogan seems to think highly of it.  I mostly use 28/58 primes but have come to appreciate the 24-85.  Might  be fun to give a telephoto a go as well, and it would pair up nicely with my 24-85.  Just what I need is a bout of GAS.


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Re: Will Nikon Re-Invent the AI-S?
« Reply #80 on: March 24, 2018, 16:02:48 »
My own fault - I'll repost this image into the right space. Will be done soon. Sorry for that! LZ

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Re: Will Nikon Re-Invent the AI-S?
« Reply #81 on: March 25, 2018, 06:31:47 »
Dave, how would you think about the function of attracting thieves?  :D

Well I suppose but I'd worry more about "NIKON" boldly displayed white on black.

Back in the '80s I covered "NIKON" and "FE2" on a couple of my cameras. This attracted less attention from common stiffs but more attention from other photographers. I prefer to be the fly on the wall provided those I'm photographing haven't studied with B. F.  Skinner.

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Re: Will Nikon Re-Invent the AI-S?
« Reply #82 on: March 26, 2018, 01:14:29 »
I think the aim here ought to be to make something that works well and really feels right in the hand, in an FM2 kind of way, but with things like modern metering.

And here it's appropriate to consider the body as well as the lens. Nikon showed with the D750 they could make a DSLR smaller than anyone else if they wanted to; it's incredibly shallow from the sensor plane to the back of the camera because of where the logic board is inside the camera, and that makes for a smaller body and a surprisingly deep, comfortable grip for such a small camera. Suppose they simply applied those techniques to the Df, now without the big AF-style grip, which would knock probably 5mm off the depth of the camera and 5mm off the height.....and now, suppose they replace the remaining AIS and AIS-derived AF lenses with a new line of optically high-performing, small f2.5 and f2.8 primes with AIS-standard ergonomics, AIS-style dimension, and the new, smaller, quieter AF-P autofocus motors.

Wouldn't that cut into mirrorless? Wouldn't that sell well?  They'd probably have some decisions to make, such as whether to make it purely about stills like the Df or include multimedia capabilities (I'd favor the video, to gin up sales a bit), and whether to retain the mirror or go mirrorless with an F mount. But still . . . . . done right the whole rig could be barely bigger than the Fuji mirrorless bodies, about the same size as an FM2, and compatible with the entire Nikon lens line.

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Re: Will Nikon Re-Invent the AI-S?
« Reply #83 on: March 28, 2018, 03:07:11 »
Do you mean as a manual focus or as an f/2.5 AF?  Just curious your thoughts.

As a manual focus lens, though perhaps chipped.  I don't think the optical design lends itself well to being motor driven.

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Re: Will Nikon Re-Invent the AI-S?
« Reply #84 on: March 28, 2018, 04:37:56 »
We already have AF 105/2 lens. This one needs optical improving to infinity, 1-2 ASPH surfaces and N coating. VR a must. $500-600 less then 1.4, and new 105/2 one will not stay long on the shelves. LZ