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Thomas Stellwag

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what do you see
« on: February 06, 2017, 15:56:24 »
these are 3 pics from my shop, they show my selection place for the frames

my intention is to show these 2 hours of discussion with the customer about the frame for the pic in the background
and I like to read honest answers, if it is to be seen or if one only sees a untidy mess of anything...what I am afraid of...



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Re: what do you see
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2017, 16:11:50 »
I see your well organised work-space :)
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Re: what do you see
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2017, 16:12:53 »
Thomas :

If I understand your question clearly, I feel that the first two images are dominated by the window on the back wall, which pulls the eye to it.

The third image has all the data to tell the story, while downplaying the window issue.  I do wish the artwork was up on an easel  or some support to let us see more of it.

Cheers

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Re: what do you see
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2017, 16:14:12 »
Interesting.  I would choose the one hanging on the wall behind the tableau in question, namely the third silver one from the top in the third role from the left.

For such a modern abstract picture, the most sterile-looking frame would fit, to my humble opinion.  To me, the one put on the top edge of the tableau is of the least fitting type: it would rather fit the renaissance/baroque style.
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Re: what do you see
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2017, 16:18:33 »
Thomas,

Photos of the workplace are not easy. Without your narrative it is not easy to imagine what was going on in there. I think that maybe a wider view might make the juxtaposition of the table covered in discarded frame samples and the tidy room more obvious. With this image I'm not quite sure what is being shown without being told.

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Re: what do you see
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2017, 16:22:22 »
For what i understand a plain, and neutral frame would be my choice, the painting imo is not that special a highly decorated frame will make it "nice".

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Re: what do you see
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2017, 17:08:49 »
Thomas,
First response is that it would confuse the heck out of me as a customer with an artwork to frame  :(  but since you would be giving me 2 hours I would be less blown away by the task.

There is an art to framing.   Ten years ago I could visualize the display space , and required lighting to be used hence a pretty good idea of what I wanted.  I've painted rooms, installed new lighting,  just for paintings/sculpture.  I've purchased paintings, just because I thought the framing was perfect for the art ( and I liked the Art  :) ) .  I have purchase art because I knew exactly where it would go ( and I could visualize the frame) and I liked it .  My most semi-valuable buys are in London, Europe and US which is just as well since the humidity and dust play hell with the ones I have here  >:( .  I have tried the silicon spray but not much success and not on a favourite painting.

I have two good Framers  here in Goa.  One has a more traditional view of framing art and the other has a more modern design view.  One concentrates on the piece of Art and the second on where it will be placed and the décor of that space. 

Interested In what JA has to say since he has shown effort and taste in his new country project (house) .

It appears to me that, between us in your workshop, we could find the appropriate framing.  I'm pretty much with Akira but I would probably go for the one at the left upper corner of the painting.
Cheers,
Tom
Edit: your neighbour, across the way, really should do something about that door... maybe some "Sreet Art"  lol
Tom Hardin, Goa, India

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Re: what do you see
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2017, 11:51:52 »
thanks a lot to all for taking time to answer

@ Jakov:  my well organized work space is my office - I will not show...today...Retina displays might crack  :D
@Randy:   your are totally right, I could not put it up, because this badly made stretching frame behind the canvas had no cross section, so the heep would kill the thin canvas and yes the windows are bad, doint it in the night I get selfies, which is even worse  :(
@ Akira:  no of the shown frames made it I sold a totally different frame,  carcoal  with gold plated top and very thin
@ Jack:  that is exactly what I am not getting - need to exercise
@ Fons: we got a neutral one, as said above
@  Tom:  my neighbour is a mess, the whole ground looks like this since 30 years, but this is most probably much more disturbing in a picture, than in reality, becaue everybody see´s its just their style

thanks again, I must admit, I failed more than 50 % with the message of my pic.  My intention was to show the 2 hours we needed to  find a frame for this image and to show it by pointing out the heap of samples in front of the pic (which is about 1/3 of frames we checked). I need to rethink and rearange with finally the right sample on the pic and less disturbing background.
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Re: what do you see
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2017, 14:54:29 »
Thomas, apparently I have totally misunderstood your intention for the thread!   ;D

But seriously it would be difficult to find the solution.  The main subject then would be the tableau and the samples of the frames, but they are a bit too far away from each other to be captured effectively.  Idealistically I may want to set the camera as high as possible and shoot the scene downwards from above.
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Re: what do you see
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2017, 15:01:14 »
Akira, this is exactly why I showed it.
I in "my mess" I see the word different than my customers
and who would be a better group to pull me back on ground than this forum?
thx again, I will come back with new proposals
Thomas Stellwag