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Re: Discussion of Sony A&RIII and the new Sony Sensor
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2016, 14:45:55 »
Well, my a7II has very slow write speeds.  Shooting side by side with the D750 really shows the Sony to be extremely slow.   Just one of the things Sony has to do something about .  I have a gut feeling that the next Sony will be bigger, faster to operate, better build, and the a7 series will just slowly move forward, or maybe not.  Sony has already dropped the 'small is beautiful' idea for FX.
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Re: Discussion of Sony A&RIII and the new Sony Sensor
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2016, 14:51:44 »
Seems a good idea to wait till the technology matures.
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Re: Discussion of Sony A&RIII and the new Sony Sensor
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2016, 15:10:51 »
Well, my a7II has very slow write speeds.  Shooting side by side with the D750 really shows the Sony to be extremely slow.   Just one of the things Sony has to do something about .  I have a gut feeling that the next Sony will be bigger, faster to operate, better build, and the a7 series will just slowly move forward, or maybe not.  Sony has already dropped the 'small is beautiful' idea for FX.
"FX" is a Nikon term. Sony refers to it as "35mm Full Frame".

Sony hasn't necessarily dropped the "small is beautiful" for 35mm full frame either. It's more like they are running several lines or options, and there is no way that a 24-70/2.8, 70-200/2.8 or a 85/1.4 can be small. The nice thing is that Sony also offers 28/2 FE,  35/2.8ZA FE and the recently introduced 50/1.8 FE that are small, all three with a 49mm filter thread.

Another point to "small is beautiful" is the Zeiss Loxia 21/2.8 for Sony FE at 394g with a 52mm filter thread, which is still in short supply, so that trend is not gone. The DSLR Zeiss Milvus 21/2.8 ZF.2/ZE weighs 735g/851g respective of mount and has a filter thread of 82mm.

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Re: Discussion of Sony A&RIII and the new Sony Sensor
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2016, 15:34:50 »
Can't disagree except wait for the next generation of a7 series bodies (if there is one) .  I fully expect the next new Sony 35mm Full Frame will be as big and heavy as my D750/Df.  With Sony, they may put a 35mm FF in a very small, light weight body a step below the a7 series.  You just never know which way Sony will jump  ;):(

Heck, I'm not particularly fond of shooting my 24-70 2.8 or 70-200 2.8vr II on the Df ( have used them a few times when needed) so no plans to consider the new G series.
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Re: Discussion of Sony A&RIII and the new Sony Sensor
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2016, 16:02:00 »
The rumoured Sony's D5 competitor apparently also has dual XQD card slots and supposedly an unlimited RAW buffer, the latter isn't a very relevant fact though without knowing the MP's, bit rate and frame rate.

I hope the a9 will have a slim integrated grip to improve the handeling of heavy lenses.

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Re: Discussion of Sony A&RIII and the new Sony Sensor
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2016, 16:31:34 »
I actually think that it would be nice if we could choose the depth and width of the grip ourselves, much like you can with a custom pistol grip. That would improve the ergonomics a lot on both mirrorless and DSLRs.

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Re: Discussion of Sony A&RIII and the new Sony Sensor
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2016, 16:35:46 »
The rumoured Sony's D5 competitor apparently also has dual XQD card slots and supposedly an unlimited RAW buffer, the latter isn't a very relevant fact though without knowing the MP's, bit rate and frame rate.

I hope the a9 will have a slim integrated grip to improve the handeling of heavy lenses.

SAR link
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-bomb-rumor-first-a9-specs-dual-xqd-card-slot-unlimited-raw-burst/
Let's hope it's true, and not just someone making a rumour on beefing up the D5 spec. The XQD cards seem to be a good design, so hopefully it's gaining tracktion.

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Re: Discussion of Sony A&RIII and the new Sony Sensor
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2016, 01:11:56 »
A full-frame 70-80MP camera might be impossible to hand-hold?  The image stabilization would be the absolute necessity, in-lens or in-body.
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Re: Discussion of Sony A&RIII and the new Sony Sensor
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2016, 01:58:29 »
A full-frame 70-80MP camera might be impossible to hand-hold?  The image stabilization would be the absolute necessity, in-lens or in-body.
IBIS as well as EFCS helps. In addition micro contrast won't be hampered by a mirror moving up and down. 64mp on full frame is just a tad more pixel density than 16mp on m43. Or 20mp on m43 vs 80mp on full frame.

Let's see which parts of the rumour that are true. Just like there are 12mp, 24mp and 36/42mp A7 versions, there could be more than one A9 version. Maybe a 70-80mp sensor would be for a Sony A9R or a Nikon D5X or a D850? Lots of things we don't know yet. I think that a Sony A9 professional press or sports camera would rather have something like a 20-24mp sensor like the new Nikon D5.

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Re: Discussion of Sony A&RIII and the new Sony Sensor
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2016, 08:52:21 »
I want the 42MP Sony from the A7R2 in a D8x0 chipholder
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