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Frank Fremerey

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sense of motion
« on: October 31, 2015, 00:28:32 »
How can a photo create the sensation of movement if actualy nothing moves?

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Re: sense of motion
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2015, 00:46:53 »
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Frank, I am not sure whether you are expecting :

# We criticize your images, as you posted them in the critique thread;

# We post images like yours and that would be a new thread.

 ;)

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Re: sense of motion
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2015, 08:48:31 »
Both.
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Re: sense of motion
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2015, 12:47:12 »
Right, ok !

How can a photo create the sensation of movement if actualy nothing moves?

I am tempted to say : actually only the camera moves. ;D.

The image below also shows a sensation of movement while even the camera was still. But something had to move : the zoom's optical block.

Anyway, I think this kind of images needs a main subject to tell you something as any background implies  a subject. Otherwise, the gaze gets lost in the image...

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Re: sense of motion
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2015, 13:59:24 »
rosko: Yes this is kind of sucks-you-into picture. The movement is into the picture not panoramic...
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Re: sense of motion
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2015, 14:47:29 »
Let me share my try, with Jakov's heligon during our NG trip in Sept.
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Re: sense of motion
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2015, 15:03:15 »
I agree.

As a matter of fact, all is about relativity.

Relativity between the combo (camera/lens)  and the scene.

# In your 2 first pictures, we can notice that the optical axis is almost perpendicular to the plan of subject. i guess you were in a vehicle when you took this pics.

# in the following ones, I am not sure what you did with your camera, perhaps both in a vehicle and moving your cam randomly.


# In my image the optical axis is still perpendicular to the scene, but the mobile glasses of the zoom went back and forth.

If I had rotated the camera in the same time I would have obtained a spiral like shape.

Below : nasturtiums with nikkor 14mm f/2,8 (prime). the curves are due from wide-angle lens. The rotating axis of camera movement was parallel to the scene.





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Re: sense of motion
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2015, 16:34:39 »
Not a zen riddle, but - the above aptly suggest motion using blur (with at least three different techniques: camera blur, subject movement, zoom FL variation). How to suggest motion without blur ?

Some obvious responses : display non-equilibrium (an apple in the air) or instable equilibrium (a ballerina doing pointes, or simply a walking attitude). I won't even bother illustrating.
Less obvious responses may reside in perspective arrangements, or multiple exposers representing a sequence of stable Position...

Here I'll have to browse my archives, not sure to find good examples.
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Re: sense of motion
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2015, 18:47:55 »
Not a zen riddle, but - the above aptly suggest motion using blur (with at least three different techniques: camera blur, subject movement, zoom FL variation). How to suggest motion without blur ?

Some obvious responses : display non-equilibrium (an apple in the air) or instable equilibrium (a ballerina doing pointes, or simply a walking attitude). I won't even bother illustrating.
Less obvious responses may reside in perspective arrangements, or multiple exposers representing a sequence of stable Position...

Here I'll have to browse my archives, not sure to find good examples.

I asked myself the same question, i went with the subject should be stationary.

An object mid-air doesn't convey sense of motion, it implies it. I know this is splitting hairs in this context, but that's why i made my choice as mentioned.

I don't know which direction Frank wants to take this thread, but for me any of the ways mentioned by you should do it and give us some nice images.
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Re: sense of motion
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2015, 20:53:09 »
The sense of motion is about a shot that shows something in motion. Definition is enough in the opening post.

A static camera is not so much what I have in mind and archive shots not.

I love to add an aspect to your perception for a while.

Think motion.

shoot motion.

create a sense of motion.

post you thoughts and you results.
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Re: sense of motion
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2015, 10:01:33 »
Not a new concept, just "a bit less".

In this case, it was the focus ring that was moved.

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Re: sense of motion
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2015, 10:03:30 »
And in this case, the zoom ring.

However, in both cases everything was left alone for about 1/3rd of the exposure, to give a "base line" to work from.