Morning Rose

[Mike G]

One of my back garden roses in the morning sun.
Fuji X-T1 + 50-140 mm, Aperture-priority AE, 1/80 sec, f/6.4, ISO 200

[Bjørn Rørslett]

Nice demonstration that your zoom lens can deliver close up

However, the colours look strange. Greens veer towards yellow and the reds have patches of orange in them. Are the displayed colours realistic? The file is tagged sRGB so that should not be a problem on a web page.

[Mike G]

Thanks Bjorn, I did desaturate a little because this rose is already naturally saturated, in my Nikon days I always struggled to get the reds as I wanted them!

The odd colours are due to the effect of strong oblique early morning sunlight, I could see them when using my own eyes, also I'm not an expert editor able to exploit Lightroom to the limit,one day maybe.

[Bjørn Rørslett]

OK, so the overall yellowish cast is due to morning sun, then? sRGB does the desaturation of strong reds for you by design .... Any Nikon "red issue" might be traced to the conversion of the NEF as I always find the colours spot on. The auto w/b on the current crop of Nikons is frighteningly good. A later tune-up is very rarely needed.

Still a little amazed the Fuji didn't manage better if auto w/b was used. You might want to dial in a specific w/b yourself to see whether the rendition improves (all this assume you did use auto w/b in the first place, of course).

[Mike G]

Bjorn many thanks for your advice, here is a version saved from the raw file in Aperture! The raw was to big to post!

[Akira]

Mike, in Firefox on my monitor, the latter version looks much more beautiful than the initial one.  Personally I haven't had any problem with the red color since D7000.  I haven't used any Fuji cameras, but I felt that Canon 5D III had the tendency to overexpose red.

[Mike G]

Akira, when using a D810 and previous Nikons the Reds seemed to always be oversaturated! Lightroom hasn't done the original any favours after uploading! I agree the second is much more true to the real rose bush. I don't understand what has happened, normally I would prefer the Lr processing but certainly not this time!

Thanks for commenting.

[John Geerts]

The revised one is more natural and fresh. Nice reds.

[Mike G]

Thanks John, I really can't workout what went wrong with the first one? Basically just a crop of No2.

Some more flowers from Koln.

[Bjørn Rørslett]

Hm. This time, a cold cast with excessive blue. If this is Fuji auto w/b, there is room for improvement.

I did a quick colour adjust to remove the excess blue and to my eye, the colour rendition became more natural. Nothing major, just a little tweak using the Curves Tool in PS.

(If Mike don't want re-edits on his image, I'll remove at once)

[Mike G]

Bjorn, I don't mind! The PPG was only minimally adjusted and it was taken on a cold rainy day which may account for the cold look?
Interesting to see your take!

To be honest the difference to my eyes is minimal but I see what you are getting at!

[Bjørn Rørslett]

Agree the difference is not huge, but the coldness overlaying the foliage and flowers has largely disappeared. The difference is most visible for the stonework in the background.

In the end, it all depends on personal preferences, I guess. Rain and wetness do bring out colours more vividly, but at the same time, endows a sheen of blue to any surface retaining water.

[basker]

The structure of this topic has been extremely interesting and useful to me. Much of my effort goes into trying to discover what I am not seeing. These examples and insights are the way I learn. Many thanks to all who participated.     

Sam

[pluton]

The odd colours are due to the effect of strong oblique early morning sunlight, I could see them when using my own eyes, also I'm not an expert editor able to exploit Lightroom to the limit,one day maybe.

Mike, a suggestion...feel free to ignore or discard!
What I did with Lightroom and Fuji files...and eventually, Nikon files as well...was to find a color shot of a "normal scene" that you've taken, and in the Develop Module, dial and tune it to look the way you want.  Not an 'all gimmicked up' rendering, but an attractive rendering that suites your personal taste and that works as a good universal starting point.  Blue sky the way you like, green plants the way you like, red car looking the way you like red cars to look, color, contrast, white balance, etc, etc.
Then, while still in Develop, using the Presets "+" button, create a new user preset and give it a name. 
Then, when next Importing the files from the Fuji,  under "Apply During Import-Develop Settings", select your new user preset.
You may decide to modify or create additional Develop Presets as you go along.

[Mike G]

Thanks Pluton, I'll give it a go.