Author Topic: TC-14E vs. TC-14EIII improvement?  (Read 8480 times)

chambeshi

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Re: TC-14E vs. TC-14EIII improvement?
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2016, 10:50:52 »
Excerpt from an interesting essay, last updated 2/12/2012

http://www.bythom.com/rationallenses.htm

"... If you have the 70-200mm f/2.8, 70-200mm f/2.8 II, the 200mm f/2, the 200-400mm f/4 (either version), the 300mm f/2.8, the 300mm f/4, the 400mm f/2.8, the 500mm f/4, or the 600mm f/4, you should get a converter or two. The non-zoom lenses do quite fine with the TC-14E, even wide open. The zoom lenses tend to need to be stopped down a stop to get optimal results. In my opinion the old TC-20E is too much converter for anything other than the 200mm f/2 and 300mm f/2.8 in all but a pinch, and even on those two lenses you'll see clear lowering of image quality.

The new TC-20E III works well with the 70-200mm II, the 200mm, 300mm, and 400mm, and seems to work okay on near subjects with the 200-400mm. On the f/4 lenses you'll probably lose reliable autofocus. The TC-17E is somewhere between the two other converters in terms of image quality, but seems to retain decent focus performance on all of the lenses I've tried it on, including two of the f/4 lenses. D800 and D4 users should note that the new autofocus system does indeed make the longer TCs more interesting, as focus is maintained. I used to carry a TC-14E and old TC-20E. These days I carry all three: TC-14E, TC-17E, and TC-20E III. Note that while you can (usually) use third party converters with the Nikkors, I've yet to find any that match the TCs in quality. Some models also don't pass information correctly between lens and camera. Also, you really shouldn't be trying to use teleconverters on new Nikkors other than ones just listed as the optical decisions for lens and converter were considered together (obviously, many older Nikkors have TCs that were designed to work with them, but that's another article: "best of the older lenses"). In some cases, you can damage your lens if you tried the wrong converter (Nikon's TCs all clear the rear element of Nikon exotics correctly)..."

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Re: TC-14E vs. TC-14EIII improvement?
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2024, 06:29:51 »
This thread is getting a bit old, and there has been multiple developments at the lens side of things. I have a TC-14E that i have used for for almost 25 years since the film days. However with the recent acquisition of the 500mm f/4 PF I got tempted to also acquire a TC-14E III as used prices have been coming down to a more affordable level lately and I wanted to see if there is improvement for myself. My conclusion so far from testing on the 500PF and the 300PF on D500 is that with these two lenses the new and old TC provide about the same results resolution-wise. There will usually be more variability due to accuracy of focusing, air quality disturbances, and movement artifacts than between the two versions of the TCs. However I think I see some slight improvement in contrast and thereby also color in TC-14E III. This is most apparent in strong backlight situations, similar to a BIF against a bright cloudy sky.

Below are first two examples with 100% crop or near 100% crop. Open images in new tab to view full sized versions.
 
The cropped test captures on tripod show examples where different versions of the TC performed best with the 500PF in two different tests. One was at f/8 and the other stopped down to f/9, but I do not think that is the reason based on other captures I made. See file names for TC version.

Then a handheld test with a bright background demonstrating differences in contrast. It was tricky though as clouds kept moving in the background. Settings and processing are identical.

Continued in next post...
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Re: TC-14E vs. TC-14EIII improvement?
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2024, 06:35:05 »
Next is an indoor test with the two TCs on 300PF at f/ 6.3. I used SB500 as commander and SB600 as bounced light source. Flipping between these two reveals subtle differences in contrast. Again open in new tab for full sized versions of the crops. Also feel free to download these tests to view on local computer.
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