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Gear Talk => What the Nerds Do => Topic started by: Erik Lund on November 03, 2020, 12:39:55

Title: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Erik Lund on November 03, 2020, 12:39:55
So I got a fun little project ;)
Using lenses to focus and dampen light from LED lights - I have found asome really nice build quality LED Lights
And then I have adapted them for 39mm LTM Leica Thread Mount  :o

Current setup is with EL-Nikkor 50mm f/2.8 and Voigtlander 90mm f/3.5
So pin-spot on the statue and a wider beam on the top gold part.

Thinking about making a flashlight version for light-painting - Wouldn't it be great to be able to focus and dampen for the night scenes, with your lens of choice,,,  8)
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Birna Rørslett on November 03, 2020, 13:06:04
Think about the same technology combined with a 400-600mm lens ... would create a pin-point spotlight :)

Amazing already.
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: bobfriedman on November 03, 2020, 13:40:15
great idea... LED's can get pretty hot though

can you post a "how to" ?
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Erik Lund on November 03, 2020, 14:05:27
Thx! They actually need very little work to accept the mounts - They are extruded alloy housings, so one giant heat-sink ;)
Pretty waterproof with soft rubber seal IP65
I'll see if I take them apart - but it's really easy to do ;)
EUROLITE LED IP PST-10W 6400K Pinspot
 They are like 50€  ;) the comparative ones for outdoor use is ten times that
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Birna Rørslett on November 03, 2020, 14:25:54
The 'Erikian LED' concept might be great for UV LEDs. All the [UV] illumination in the world precisely focused onto the poor subject  and no heat issue :)
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Erik Lund on November 03, 2020, 14:35:58
The 'Erikian LED' concept might be great for UV LEDs. All the [UV] illumination in the world precisely focused onto the poor subject  and no heat issue :)


Yes that's one more application that would benefit for sure! ;)
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Erik Lund on November 03, 2020, 14:44:14
BTW it could just as well be an Nikon F-mount that is used
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Bent Hjarbo on November 03, 2020, 15:14:43
Very nice project, and some very interesting pictures as well :)
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Kim Pilegaard on November 03, 2020, 15:51:56
Quite interesting - maybe, I can use such a system for my outdoor bird photo studio.
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Anthony on November 03, 2020, 16:05:22
Clever!
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Kim Pilegaard on November 03, 2020, 16:46:59
BTW it could just as well be an Nikon F-mount that is used
I like this idea - then you could also easily put an old zoom lens in front.
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Fons Baerken on November 03, 2020, 16:57:37
I dont understand this how does it work? :)
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Akira on November 03, 2020, 18:29:07
Great idea and, as always, modification work!

I wonder if lenses like XR Heligon would minimize the loss of light?   :o :o :o
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Birna Rørslett on November 03, 2020, 18:40:46
They lend themselves to experimental work and modications, thus why not? I don't know if Erik has any such optic available to him although wouldn't be surprised if he had ...
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Erik Lund on November 03, 2020, 20:04:06
The Lenses, optics behave similar to when used for photographic work - I would say that this is sort of the opposite of using Projection lenses for Photography  :o ;)
The LED element is clearly depicted/projected when you focus the lens, crisp and sharp.

The lens lets more light out the faster it is, so yes if you need high beam so to say you open up, if you want diffused and dampened you stop down.

Currently I have no super fast lenses in mount but could be great fun to try ;)

Sure zooms work as expected and yes for a focused light for a bird hide out studio as well - For this application an old Visoflex lens with mirror box on a tripod, would be very handy, you could focus the lens via the reflex mirror, then shift it open and fire up the LED though the lens  8)
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: golunvolo on November 03, 2020, 21:41:48
Great idea with wonderful results. The concept opens to many possibilities.

 Olé Erik!
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Akira on November 03, 2020, 21:47:28
For this application an old Visoflex lens with mirror box on a tripod, would be very handy, you could focus the lens via the reflex mirror, then shift it open and fire up the LED though the lens  8)

Wow, that sounds like a brilliant idea!
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: ColinM on November 03, 2020, 22:23:47
I was really struck by the beauty of your stupa photo in the November thread Erik.
It's really interesting to read the background to it.
Title: Re: LED Lights - Using lenses to focus and dampen
Post by: Thomas Stellwag on November 03, 2020, 22:37:56
great units, you made
Birna´s idea for UV sounds good, but it might be riskful if someone looks into the light, don´t think you can declare CE conformity for it
...but you could make low enery UV sets with many adaptors and sell it as fungus protection during storing in cupboards or cases