I am not expecting much. I don't need the two slots and if it is the same sensor, I already have one in the Z7. So, I wonder what would get me to buy one since I am all manual, etc. Loser ISO? No. Better Live Screen? Possible, but I doubt it.
What is making your day with this new offering?
I am not expecting much...Some competitors have a "high-res" mode where 4 shots are combined with the sensor shifted 1 pixel each time, effectively giving full colour information at every pixel - no bayer demosaicing so resolution is improved somewhat, and also reducing noise. Also 8 or 16 shot modes where the sensor is shifted 1/2 pixel amounts to improve resolution even further. This could be perfect for the static, high resolution work you do. I would be a little disappointed if the new Nikon cameras do not have this feature.
Some competitors have a "high-res" mode where 4 shots are combined with the sensor shifted 1 pixel each time, effectively giving full colour information at every pixel - no bayer demosaicing so resolution is improved somewhat, and also reducing noise. Also 8 or 16 shot modes where the sensor is shifted 1/2 pixel amounts to improve resolution even further. This could be perfect for the static, high resolution work you do. I would be a little disappointed if the new Nikon cameras do not have this feature.
For the rest, I don't expect major breakthroughs but a combination of small improvements as Nikon learns from the strengths and weaknesses of their first cameras that in combination give a better and more refined product, in the same way the D850 improved on the D810, which in turn was better than the D800.
The dual card slots and vertical grip with controls, if present, address the other criticized aspects of the original Z6 and Z7. So, basically, chances are that all the major limitations of the first-generation products are resolved in the II models. That would be pretty good, considering that they have to keep coming up with stuff to improve to continue selling cameras after the second-generation models. What else is there to do? The competition doesn't have lit buttons. There is only so much space in a tiny camera housing.
Personally I wonder whether Nikon concluded there was only so far it could push the current sensor and decided to focus R&D resources on what might be possible with a next-gen chip in a future model (hence the use of two existing processors, rather than the development of a new one for this camera). That's speculation, of course, but other than the video improvements, it's hard to see what more Nikon could do with the current sensor.
Since I haven't entered the Z-system yet, I find that the arrival of the Z7 II will be a good entry point for me. I am especially interested in the improved AF-performance, which I hope will at least equal that of my D500.
They clearly think marketing cannibalized features is their only path to selling enough units.
So, nothing new is happening here, they continue to market as they have in the past. Entirely predictable, IMO.
People balked at me saying the Z6/7 were lacking features like vertical grip, exposure/drive control and dual cards merely because Nikon's short-term strategy is clearly to strip features and use their re-introduction as selling points for the next cameras . . . and here we are with Nikon highlighting dual cards and vertical grip as major selling points for the next Zs. 8) Nikon is really gonna blow minds when the next gen Z includes revolutionary new controls for exposure and drive modes. ;)
I continue waiting on Z mount to receive full-featured cameras that aren't cannibalized for market strategies. I wish the staff Nikon have in camera development had half the confidence in Nikon's brand as their lens people do. They clearly think marketing cannibalized features is their only path to selling enough units.
I think there is no need to go into conspiracy theories or find evil motives regarding why the products have certain features or not.
I don't think it's evil in the slightest, just a marketing strategy I am not fond of. And it can't be a conspiracy, as such strategies aren't criminal. Doesn't change my love for Nikon! :)
I just realized that the 28-70 2.8 does not work with a Z :o :o :o
Af works but i get fee error
yes i did :o :o :o
this is terrible. i was hoping to buy an 80-200 2.8S ::)
Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8 AF-S works perfectly on Z7
are you getting the FEE error?
my main interest is the 28-70/2.8
i dont want to apply a toothpick on my beautiful FTZ adapter :o :o :o
are you getting the FEE error?Also the 28-70 2.8 AF-S Has no error
my main interest is the 28-70/2.8
i dont want to apply a toothpick on my beautiful FTZ adapter :o :o :o
My D810 sold on eBay. Good thing because it's value was plummeting fast. Now, I make no money on photography but I really enjoy it as a hobby. I mostly shoot landscape and astrophotography. I heavily use tilt shift lenses and take like 15 minutes to set up a shot. I'm not quick. sometimes I try to do birds but that's just trying.
I could probably get a used z7 on eBay for ~$1800-2000. But then i would need the FTZ adapter and a cfe or xqd card so another couple hundred for decent size. all said I am sure it'd be $2100-2200 post switch.
I do not really think there is anything that the z7ii has that I especially need but I am told the differences between z6 and z6ii are pretty impressive. so I have a fear of regret.
should I get a z7 used or is a z7ii with it's slight alterations really going to e worth the $800 more then z7 or so it'll be in the end?
thoughts and supporting arguments please :)
In my brief sessions testing the Z7, I mostly tried it for indoor portraits and it would sometimes nail the focus and sometimes miss completely, and I couldn't really see what was going wrong. The image quality (when in focus) was superb with the Z 50/1.8. I hope this has been rectified in the II models (Nikon say "superior subject acquisition" which should be exactly the problem I'm talking about) and if it is, then the cameras probably can work for me.
Z7 II now is in stock in some stores in Finland.
Also in stock in Melbourne, Australia.And, germany, bavaria, Munich. with adapter, 3459,--, euro. bye bye,richard
From the review : "The Z6 II's image quality is indistinguishable from that of its predecessor, including at in low light, at high ISO settings."
It is also my impression, while it is apparent that the color calibration of the tested Z6 and Z6 II is different.
Did you compare the dark grey background areas of RAW images at ISO 12800 and 25600? Interestingly, the well lit areas look cleaner on Z6II, but the dark areas look cleaner on Z6.