NikonGear'23
Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: Erik Lund on September 16, 2020, 09:01:53
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New Nikkor Z 50mm f/1.2 s
https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-lenses/nikkor-z-50mm-f%252f1.2-s.html (https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/mirrorless-lenses/nikkor-z-50mm-f%252f1.2-s.html)
Here with sample images - Looks big and with loads of exotic glass ;D 8)
https://www.nikon-image.com/products/nikkor/zmount/nikkor_z_50mm_f12_s/sample.html (https://www.nikon-image.com/products/nikkor/zmount/nikkor_z_50mm_f12_s/sample.html)
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1090g and 89,5 x 150mm; it IS big. Bigger (longer) and heavier than the Sony 135mm f/1.8 (SEL135F18GM)...
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Yes it's 600 grams heavier than the 50mm Z f/1.8 - But a full kilo less than the 50mm f/0.95 ;D
The little relatively little f/1.8 does separation quite well and is capable of some amazing blur circles and both front and rear Bokeh.
Let's see how much more the f/1.2 can better that and the price point is more than tippled,,, :o
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1090g and 89,5 x 150mm; it IS big. Bigger (longer) and heavier than the Sony 135mm f/1.8 (SEL135F18GM)...
It's always difficult to compare between brands and focal length, but yes a substantial size!
It's comparable in size and weight to Zeiss Otus 55mm f/1.4 which is only f/1.4 and MF so I think that the engineers did a great job at Nikon!
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With my getting older, I'll soon feel compelled to moving to Leica M, or back to m43.
Getting rid of the mirror box was a golden opportunity for introducing short, light, symmetric designs. Instead, more or less systematic retrofocus design and all sorts of aberrations corrections (useful ?) add weight and bulk.
Of course, the result looks nice and marketable; unfortunately, I'm in another niche.
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not too expensive :o :o :o
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Now that Nikon released the humongous Neo Noct, anything look compact... :o :o :o
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With my getting older, I'll soon feel compelled to moving to Leica M, or back to m43.
Getting rid of the mirror box was a golden opportunity for introducing short, light, symmetric designs. Instead, more or less systematic retrofocus design and all sorts of aberrations corrections (useful ?) add weight and bulk.
Of course, the result looks nice and marketable; unfortunately, I'm in another niche.
I completely agree that there must come some native Nikkors that have smaller size and less weight as design target, I have however a feeling it will take many years for them to emerge.
For some applications perfect IQ is nice - but not all, agreed!
As of today absolutely no size benefit from adopting Mirrorless design - Neither for camera or lens
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I completely agree that there must come some native Nikkors that have smaller size and less weight as design target, I have however a feeling it will take many years for them to emerge.
Well, there is 28mm and 40mm compact primes in the lineup, should appear in 2021.
The 14-30/4 is compact also, as are some of the other zooms.
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Small is beautiful but no substitute for cubic inches as they say.
One route to get small and fast on the Z cameras is via MF lenses originally intended for short flange/film plane distances.
Otherwise, we seem to be stuck with long-depth-of-field options only.
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Well, there is 28mm and 40mm compact primes in the lineup, should appear in 2021.
The 14-30/4 is compact also, as are some of the other zooms.
Yes you are of course correct! Looking forward to see how 'compact' the 28mm and 40mm will be. Thanks!
The compact zooms are really not up to top standard, yes they are seemingly doing very good, but on the count of firmware corrections, it's too much for my liking - Similar to the Leica Q distortion corrections.
Also I bought into the Z system as an addition to my F-Mount lenses, not to replace the D850 and lenses- The Z6 and Z7 build in VR and viewfinder adds something not always possible with DSLR
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One route to get small and fast on the Z cameras is via MF lenses originally intended for short flange/film plane distances.
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Yes, there are so many nice lenses out there to play with on the Z!
However the film plane in the Z cameras are so far forward in the body that there is a huge size disadvantage compared to say a Leica M system.
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Pice incl. vat in Denmark is 2.500,- €
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Cheaper than a used Noct : not a bad pricing.
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only 2100€ and with Autofocus. My lens baby!
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Pice incl. vat in Denmark is 2.500,- €
exaggerated early adopter price
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exaggerated early adopter price
Price on NIKON's own page,,,
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Wow, the AIS 50/1.2 is tiny in comparison :o
It's even bigger than the Canon RF 50/1.2 - about the same diameter, slightly heaver but significantly longer.
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Wow, the AIS 50/1.2 is tiny in comparison :o
It's even bigger than the Canon RF 50/1.2 - about the same diameter, slightly heaver but significantly longer.
The 50/1.2 Ai-s is indeed tiny compared with big brother. It is also feather light at 359 g v 1090 g for the 50 s.
The two questions are:
1- How sharper is the 50 s WO
2- Colour rendition v 50 Ais
Here is my 50 Ai-s which is a breeze using on the Z7 with Focus Peeking under your pinky on FN2.
(https://i.imgur.com/V7UAX2z.jpg)
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Price on NIKON's own page,,,
till the market price goes down I will use my OM Zuiko 1.2/55
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The size actually far outdid my estimations of how big it will be . . . a 50mm at the size/weight of a 24-70/2.8? No thanks, the 105/1.4 will outperform it for dedicated portraiture and the 50/1.2S is too big for a walk-around for me. My wait for an AF replacement to the 50/1.2 ai-s continues. Oh well, at least modern EVFs have made MF easier than ever. I'm sure the optical performance will be excellent, but that is nothing of note nowadays. I hope the next trend balances modern optical excellence with size. All I personally want for a 50/1.2 (besides AF) over the ai-s is improved contrast in challenging lighting and reduced field curvature.