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Travelogues => Future NG Events - and Location Reveries => Topic started by: Jakov Minić on July 15, 2020, 21:50:16
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Thomas took us out for dinner. Thank you Thomas, Nomad did not dissapoint.
Thomas is showing off his Leica M10, and he will post a better image than this phone image...
More importantly, we are brainstorming a possible NG get-together in September, region German-Swiss border, Lake Constance.
Any interested folk?
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Yes, always interested in NG gatherings.
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Hi ;)
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Yes, always interested in NG gatherings.
+1 :)
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+2 :)
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Yes, always interested in NG gatherings.
MOS DEF!
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A fine selection of spirits!
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NG gatherings are always highlights of the year. Put me on the list.
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Yes, always interested in NG gatherings.
Yes ! Interested too.
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The perfect way to celebrate our 5 year of NikonGear.net as well. I'll be there 8)
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Me and my wife is not able to attend in the last half of September ???
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Good to see that there is interest!
Following steps:
- Thomas to post links of where we are going to stay and the sites of interest;
- We confirm the destination, and say: Thank you Thomas, it looks rather interesting and we would love to see this area;
- Birna, Erik and JA will pick a week in September. They apologise in advance if the week they choose doesn't suit all, but from experience, as we all know, impossible to suit all.
Looking forward to seeing you all!
For now, the list is:
1. Thomas and Ivonne;
2. Jakov;
3. Bruno Schroder;
4. Bent and his wife;
5. Paco;
6. MOS DEF Akira;
7. Birna;
8. Erik;
9. John Geerts.
Yours, Jakov
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Nice list!
Can i get on it?
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Of course i see if i can join>
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I am interested, subject to timing.
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Good to see that there is interest!
Following steps:
- Thomas to post links of where we are going to stay and the sites of interest;
- We confirm the destination, and say: Thank you Thomas, it looks rather interesting and we would love to see this area;
- Birna, Erik and JA will pick a week in September. They apologise in advance if the week they choose doesn't suit all, but from experience, as we all know, impossible to suit all.
Looking forward to seeing you all!
For now, the list is:
1. Thomas and Ivonne;
2. Jakov;
3. Bruno Schroder;
4. Bent and his wife;
5. Paco;
6. MOS DEF Akira;
7. Birna;
8. Erik;
9. John Geerts.
Yours, Jakov
Oh, sorry for the confusion. Due to my family related circumstances, I won't be able to attend this kind of gathering for any foreseeable future.
Hope you enjoy it!
By the way, NG online meeting using Skype or similar should be doable, I guess?!
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Jakov,
Looks like a great idea.I am very interested so count me in. But..I can't commit 100% yet. It also depends on things like travel restrictions.
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The list is open to all.
Let's wait for Thomas to provide us with more info, especially on the accommodation, then we can set the limit.
Of course, we live in crazy times and it is difficult to commit to anything given the travel restrictions and precautionary measures that change daily from country to country.
I sure hope we do meet-up and i think that we should organise some sort of a tele-conference with the other members that couldn't join, especially with MOS DEF Akira aka Mr Cloud!
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I'm not keen on traveling anywhere far this year, but since this is planned to be in my vicinity, I'm definitely interested as well!
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I will be with you in spirit. Especially if that spirit is single malt scotch whisky :D
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The list is open to all.
Let's wait for Thomas to provide us with more info, especially on the accommodation, then we can set the limit.
Of course, we live in crazy times and it is difficult to commit to anything given the travel restrictions and precautionary measures that change daily from country to country.
I sure hope we do meet-up and i think that we should organise some sort of a tele-conference with the other members that couldn't join, especially with MOS DEF Akira aka Mr Cloud!
Thank you so much, Jakov, for taking the online possibility into account! I won't urge you but am looking forward to the opportunity to speak with the NG members!
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Setting up an online meeting is rather easy provided we agree on a timing that accommodates the time zones of the participants and we agree on the media. Zoom would require an organiser having all participant's emails for the invitation. Max call is 40 minutes for up to 100 participants.
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thanks Jakov for starting the discussion about a possible NG meeting (picture for comparison will follow)
...and Fons showing me with a Belgian cap in the Netherlands...
the area is explained here https://www.bodensee.eu/en (https://www.bodensee.eu/en)
It is sometimes difficult to find leaflets or flyers in an unknown language, as the are even proud "of beeing able to get everything done except speaking German". In this English brochure - you already see 3 projects, I would propose: Rhine Falls for testing your equipment, Island Mainau for finding duckweed deluxe, Zeppelin Museum https://www.zeppelin-museum.de/en (https://www.zeppelin-museum.de/en). You do not fly in a Zeppelin, you drive. Friedrichshafen could be done by a boat trip f.e.
This would cover the west part of the lake and include Jakov´s favourite, the town Konstanz. I like Konstanz very much as well, especially its fountains https://www.peter-lenk.de/skulpturen/baden-wuerttemberg/konstanz/triumphbogen.html (https://www.peter-lenk.de/skulpturen/baden-wuerttemberg/konstanz/triumphbogen.html). Furthermore there would be the old village, (re)built into water from 5K till 1K before Christ "Pfahlbauten Unteruhldingen" https://www.pfahlbauten.de/ (https://www.pfahlbauten.de/) In this area, I would try to get accomodation. Hagnau (village) is know for its wine, so for the ones interested we might ask for a wine tasting.
Nearby and as an optional visit, is a museum for corroded screws https://autoundtraktor.museum/ (https://autoundtraktor.museum/) with a lot of decorations and small things around the time of the usage of those machines. The advantage is, it has a big restaurant with good food and fair prices, so the group, splitting depending on interests could either take their VR fluids immediately or go and see the museum before.
On a lake there are boats and smaller vessels, as they are here https://www.bsb.de/en (https://www.bsb.de/en) Fortunately they have an English page. There you can see, we are at spring/autums or after season shedules. I do not find the famous Jazz steamboat and the Spaghetti Boat trips, most obvioulsly canceled and difficult to book for a group you do not know the number of people. A boat trip is something i always enjoy and should be in "your option folder".
Now coming to the difficult aspects: travelling to the region is possible but not so easy, the next bigger airport is Stuttgart, taking Intercity from there. Getting accomodation for a group is the task. It is still holiday time and Corona time. Corona means they cannot rent out all rooms and they cannot make breakfast buffet. It has all to be ordered before, or you go outside and get it in a bakery. Do we want to go to hotel, pension or holiday house?
For a serious planning, lets say we take a weekend end of september or in the beginning of october (3rd is a holiday in Germany, so no trucks on the roads around the lake), I need to know a circa number of participants. Furthermore I need a choice, after having a look on the brochure in link 1, if you prefer East (Bavaria / Austria / Switzerland) or West - my initial proposal - (Baden Würtemberg / Switzerland) part of the lake. This defines our basis of living. Then I need to know who wants single room.
As an indication: my cousin, she runs a small pension with 4 rooms, just told me at the phone that end of september, beginning of october might be possible to find 10-15 pension rooms in the village of Uhldingen.
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Single room, location anywhere as logn as duckweeds are around :) I am flexible ....
End of Sept./beginning of October would suit me just fine.
Are there alternate air ports from which one can use a train to arrive at the NG hot spot?
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I’m traveling through September 22, and again from October 6 on. So the slot might be narrow. Your spot is 300km and 3 hours drive from where I live.
Birna, maybe you should consider Zürich and then train or car from there. The distance from Zürich Airport (ZRH) to Uhldingen is 110 km; 1h15 by car; 2h47 by train and 3h11 by using train and boat ferry. This is a much better option than Stuttgart I believe.
An excellent smartphone travel planning tool I recommend is Rome2rio
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Choosing Zurich should provide better air connectivity to Oslo, thanks for the info.
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thanks MFloyd for mentioning Zürich as a possible Airport. It is even better than Stuttgart, regarding traffic in the Air and on the road.
another possibility , I forgot as well: https://www.bodensee-airport.eu/ (https://www.bodensee-airport.eu/) they have flights to the hub Frankfurt and then all international connections
please check with your airline, if Friedrichshafen is working again or if it is "before Corona info", I get from there
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Wow, Thomas, what a boatload of information!
End of September should work for me (still have to get travel and budget approved by the CFO), i'll be driving in from the South of NL. I'd like a single room.
Once we have the final dates set, i can start to lock things down at work and in private. Looking forward to it!
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We do need to agree on a suitable time slot. I suggest Friday 25 Sept and perhaps up to max. 1 week further -- for those free to join for an extended period. That will leave us with a common weekend for NG meet-up and enjoyment.
Other suggestions, please come forward with them.
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Thomas is showing off his Leica M10, and he will post a better image than this phone image...
...I doubt it is better and Jakov is skilled enough to use a pole position in angle and a position for his machine ;D
but....after several beers and a whisky with manual 28mm F8 and ISO 20k my result is not the worst case,
you all can see, I took at least the lens cap off
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some pictures of the Pfahlbauten
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We do need to agree on a suitable time slot. I suggest Friday 25 Sept and perhaps up to max. 1 week further -- for those free to join for an extended period. That will leave us with a common weekend for NG meet-up and enjoyment.
Other suggestions, please come forward with them.
Excellent, I agree. Let's meet (start gathering) on Friday, 25 September.
Then we can all choose to stay either for the weekend or the entire week.
Thomas, your bar photo turned out much better than i expected ;D
And it is good to see where we are headed, thanks!
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That week is not the best for me but I will try to change plans to be be able to attend.
No need to book accommodation for me. I will come by car and will book accommodation myself.
Thanks, Thomas for a interesting series and photographic object!
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Just back from short vacation ;) Looks like all is set already, great! 25.09.2020 - 02.10.2020 NikonGear Lake Constace
I'm considering driving there but flights are so cheap and frequent so definitely also an option, Then renting a van 7-9 persons, what do you think Thomas, would you be able to locate a Caravelle or something?
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Unfortunately my wife and I, is in Norway for family gathering at that time, so we can not participate :(
Have a good time ;)
Gunver & Bent
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it seems to be 3 groups of participants:
a) coming just for one day and join the group
b) coming over the weekend
c) staying one week
to start asking for possible locations I ´d need to know who belongs to which group
I would try to fit group c) then to a pension and if necessary one or two houses directly beside
group b) to which I belong might fill, if there is space or go to a hotel, as pensions do not really want gueste only for two nights
group a) just gets a short info about location and time in advance
about a car rental: as I can only stay friday till sunday, might boost it to monday morning, it would be better to rent a car with the driver beeing there the whole week.
I will for sure support and help you to make a nice program for the week. In case you fly, I suggest to deccide about Zürich or Friedrichshafen, rent a van over there and come togehter.
Let´s first see about the groups sizes. Then I will figure out space and prices and let you agree or disagree.
How do we decide about the program? For the Mainau island a booking is mandantory, for other places I have to find out and it depends on the group size if it makes sense. A city trip to Lindau, Konstanz or Bregenz makes more sense in a smaller group with one or two cars. With the weekenders we can visit Meersburg with the bus or Überlingen by ship
@ admins: either everybody mails me about the stay or you make an official list where all have access and we can work as well on the program in it....
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I'd like to join under alt.(c).
Air travel to Zurich is quite affordable, so no obstacle to the plans there.
Covid-19 is the dark horse here potentially thwarting the meet-up if the situation in the region worsens.
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I'd like to join under alt.(c).
Considering driving from Copenhagen by car or renting van for us to drive around in.
Yes Covid-19 is the only real obstacle,,,
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Erik, if you insist on driving from Copenhagen I might fly down to CPH and join you there.
Air travel to Zurich, then continue with a rental seems the easier approach though.
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Very good Birna ;D will be nice ride down and bonus to have the car while we are there - Let's see how many we are etc. and decide soon if we fly or not
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for those who want to see the most actual things about the region: https://www.facebook.com/meinbodensee/ (https://www.facebook.com/meinbodensee/)
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I have updated the News, looks like if this will happen, Covid-19 allowing, it will be weekend only: NikonGear - Lake Constance - Bodensee - get-together 25.09.2020 - 27.09.2020
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I have updated the News, looks like if this will happen, Covid-19 allowing, it will be weekend only: NikonGear - Lake Constace - Bodensee - get-together 25.09.2020 - 27.09.2020
Let’s agree on Constance - Bodensee. It’s only the n word which seems to be off-limits. :)
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I have updated the News, looks like if this will happen, Covid-19 allowing, it will be weekend only: NikonGear - Lake Constance - Bodensee - get-together 25.09.2020 - 27.09.2020
I made a preliminary note in my calendar.
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I’d be interested to join for the weekend (option b). I would like to stay a bit longer than just the Saturday and Sunday though, not sure whether that can be part of that option (e.g. arrive Fri, stay Sat, Sun, Mon, leave Tues)?
I still have to make arrangements at work, so that may still throw this off.
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Hello all,
it is time to make a clear concept for our stay
Here again is the first reaction to Jakov´s post:
Good to see that there is interest!
Looking forward to seeing you all!
For now, the list is:
1. Thomas and Ivonne;
2. Jakov;
3. Bruno Schroder;
4. Bent and his wife;
5. Paco;
6. MOS DEF Akira;
7. Birna;
8. Erik;
9. John Geerts.
Yours, Jakov
10. Hans Cremers
11. Anthony
then Birna and Erik said they´ll stay for one week
in the meantime Akira and Bent with wife said they cannot participate
thus I have
3-5 people for the weekend
and
2-3 people for the whole week
please for all, who have not yet said if the come or how long they want to stay, do it during the week now, as the room over there are booked quite well....Germany stays at home during Corona and it is autumn holiday period in some areas.
what helps f.e. is: "name", stay for weekend, want single room
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I'm afraid that it is impossible at this time for me to commit fully to a booking. Covid-19 restrictions have been tightened again with regards to my workplace, I will face an 14 days self payed quarantine,,,
Unsure how we can make this happen,,,
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I find myself in the similar bind as Erik. With the enforced restrictions now imposed I would have to spent weeks in quarantine afterwards, and my travel and health insurance for the travels would likely be void.
That is the grim fact at present. There is little or nothing we can to to change the virus situation in Europe apart from doing our small contribution not to make things worse. National authorities strongly recommend to postpone any travel abroad.
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At the moment I cannot commit, there is a significant risk of Covid quarantine restrictions, possibly at both ends of the journey.
For various reasons I have only spent three days on holiday in the last twelve months, and Covid has already forced the cancellation of four foreign trips. Let's hope for a vaccine to rescue foreign travel next year.
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o.k., I ´ll wait for the end of this week. Hopefully the NG team will have time to shortly discuss their own proposals - I for myself am as well open to move this to a time with less travel risk.
It is a rising infection everywhere and we have not yet seen all the people coming back from summer holidays. In case they close island Mainau, or the vessel fleet, museum, etc, it makes not much sense to go there. This risk still is there.
Unfortunately the hotels and pensions as well are not willing to reserve without deposit. They have lost enough money already this year.
Please for the rest, let me know what are your plans.
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I am still interested and my other commitment is changed to another date but the likelihood of the trip gets slimmer and slimmer as infections are on the rise, more countries and/or regions make the "do not travel unless necessary" list and quarantine regulations are tightened. If I can make it, I will arrange my own accommodation with some help of relatives on the other side of the lake. So no need to do anything for me, Thomas.
I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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Good to see that there is interest!
Following steps:
- Thomas to post links of where we are going to stay and the sites of interest;
- We confirm the destination, and say: Thank you Thomas, it looks rather interesting and we would love to see this area;
- Birna, Erik and JA will pick a week in September. They apologise in advance if the week they choose doesn't suit all, but from experience, as we all know, impossible to suit all.
Looking forward to seeing you all!
For now, the list is:
1. Thomas and Ivonne;
2. Jakov;
3. Bruno Schroder;
4. Bent and his wife;
5. Paco;
6. MOS DEF Akira;
7. Birna;
8. Erik;
9. John Geerts.
Yours, Jakov
We will have the local vote here in Bonn at 13 September. I am a candidate for Volt Europa ... but after that It will be very fine for me to attend ...
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Hi all,
looking at the actual developement of the Corona situation, I see it getting worse.
People here are now doing a lot of weekend or short trips in Germany instead of flying to any places. This means over the weekends it now is difficult to find room for a group near to the lake.
So far we have statements from Birna, Anthony and Erik, who leave it open to come. Peter who has his own place and Frank, beeing open to meet. Bent and Akira are out.
It is very difficult to organize 2 days, if the people are staying at many different locations, waiting and meeting time will "eat" our shedules.
Sorry, I am not clear, what I should do, but if we want to meet, I have to do it now. This might as well mean, you loose your money for a hotel room.
Pensions mostly are booked, hotels are available with 1 or 2 rooms per hotel.
What is the opinion of the others, beeing on the initial list?
the actual list as I see it, is
Jakov
Bruno
John
Peter
Frank
Thomas
Paco?
Anthony?
Birna?
Erik?
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Hi all,
looking at the actual developement of the Corona situation, I see it getting worse.
People here are now doing a lot of weekend or short trips in Germany instead of flying to any places. This means over the weekends it now is difficult to find room for a group near to the lake.
So far we have statements from Birna, Anthony and Erik, who leave it open to come. Peter who has his own place and Frank, beeing open to meet. Bent and Akira are out.
It is very difficult to organize 2 days, if the people are staying at many different locations, waiting and meeting time will "eat" our shedules.
Sorry, I am not clear, what I should do, but if we want to meet, I have to do it now. This might as well mean, you loose your money for a hotel room.
Pensions mostly are booked, hotels are available with 1 or 2 rooms per hotel.
What is the opinion of the others, beeing on the initial list?
the actual list as I see it, is
Jakov
Bruno
John
Peter
Frank
Thomas
Paco?
Anthony?
Birna?
Erik?
Dear Thomas, thanks a lot for going through the troubles to pull this all together.
Unfortunately, i'm in the same boat as Erik and Birna. With the uncertain situation, i cannot confirm, so this means i'm out for this time. Sorry about that.
Thanks again!
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Hi all,
looking at the actual developement of the Corona situation, I see it getting worse.
People here are now doing a lot of weekend or short trips in Germany instead of flying to any places. This means over the weekends it now is difficult to find room for a group near to the lake.
So far we have statements from Birna, Anthony and Erik, who leave it open to come. Peter who has his own place and Frank, beeing open to meet. Bent and Akira are out.
It is very difficult to organize 2 days, if the people are staying at many different locations, waiting and meeting time will "eat" our shedules.
Sorry, I am not clear, what I should do, but if we want to meet, I have to do it now. This might as well mean, you loose your money for a hotel room.
Pensions mostly are booked, hotels are available with 1 or 2 rooms per hotel.
What is the opinion of the others, beeing on the initial list?
the actual list as I see it, is
Jakov
Bruno
John
Peter
Frank
Thomas
Paco?
Anthony?
Birna?
Erik?
Thomas, I am sorry but I cannot join this event. The Covid situation is deteriorating, and quarantine requirements are being imposed at short notice. I cannot take the risk of being caught by this.
I hope we can get together when the situation is under control. I would love to visit Lake Constance.
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Due to various uncertainties that have already been listed, I suggest not to book any accommodation now.
I just got back from Croatia and i am experiencing 2-week self isolation. Very annoying not being able to see my baby.
Traveling for a weekend to Lake Constance and ending up in quarantine again for 2 weeks is not going to happen...
I can easily start my car, drive down there, book accommodation for myself, and join the gathering wherever it may be.
Thanks Thomas for your efforts.
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should we postpone it?
it is 4 weeks to go....official figures of Corona infects are rising
we have to wear masks in all places where you might get closer to other people (supermarkets, restaurants, queues, ships, trains, etc)
ok, this is not new, only getting nearer and nearer to our planned date, it increases, instead of decreases
do we really want to share our pictures on the screens with masks in our faces and stay always 1.5m off each other?
do we need to take the risk for others and for us to meet in an international group without the necessitiy for this meeting?
I am really afraid, the fun is limited.
those are my thought and now my problems: for a group visiting a showplace I have to ask for time windows to enter, so how big is the group?
finding places to sleep and a place for a "headquarter" to meet and discuss is not getting easier as well with the time running
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I agree - I think we have to postpone the event until the situation clears at least in Europe.Bust a huge thank you for the initiative!
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Unfortunately, i agree that we need to postpone... health and safety is paramount in these situations...
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Yeah. Too risky. I had already mentally checked out after seeing the increasing number of ‘code orange’ and ‘code red’ areas. Too bad. But a new year brings new opportunities...and hopefully a vaccin.