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Gear Talk => Camera Talk => Topic started by: Nikfuson on March 01, 2020, 18:47:16

Title: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Nikfuson on March 01, 2020, 18:47:16
Just got this phone and am currently in the process of exploring its three lenses and how they deliver.
First kicking it off with a shot made with LR app and its built in HDR mode in DNG capture format at: Iso 32, f/1.8, focal length 4.25mm (26mm FX equivalent), 1/111000s (yep, that's correct).
Did remove one flare spot in the lower right.
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Nikfuson on March 05, 2020, 12:49:44
Quickie just after work lunch today.
13mm wide angle.
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Akira on March 05, 2020, 13:01:24
I just purchased iPhone8 Plus in the near mint condition, and I found that the image quality of its camera is very decent even with its default Camera app.

But, man, these images look formidable, especially the superwide!
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Nikfuson on March 05, 2020, 13:31:14
It should be said that although the IQ is very good it is still captured on a very small sensor (1/2.55"). The same sensor size as the 27mm equivalent lens. The "telephoto" lens (51mm equivalent) has a 1/3.6" sensor.
To illustrate the 1/2.55" sensor:
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Jakov Minić on March 05, 2020, 15:57:21
I truly believe in the capabilities of new smartphones, and they will evolve even further.
The IQ of your examples is really good. So good, that I would not have noticed had you said that you used an SLR camera.
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Michael Erlewine on March 05, 2020, 17:35:29
I have the iPhone 11 Pro Max and all kinds of tripod heads, etc. I shot a number of music concerts with video (and a Shure mic plug-in), and plenty of still photographs.

My two cents is that the video is pretty fair, but the still photos is just OK. Not quite ready for Prime Time for my work, but not bad. Certainly each to carry around.
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: John Geerts on March 05, 2020, 18:46:44
Quality is nice, but getting a decent Raw a struggle.

I use the Huawei P20/30 Pro with the Leica lenses.  Focusing is not easy, and shooting contains gambles.  But better than nothing ;)

Completely unusable in the dark to my opinion.
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: CS on March 05, 2020, 19:47:44
Quickie just after work lunch today.
13mm wide angle.

I like it!
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Nikfuson on March 09, 2020, 12:16:22
Today's raw conversion. Tiny sensor requires tiny movements of adjustment sliders.
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Nikfuson on March 09, 2020, 12:28:15
A few others, from the phone with largely in-phone adjustments and re-scaling in PS.
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Cyril on March 09, 2020, 13:12:07
Looks like you know how to post-process and how to shoot with a wide-angle. The B&W sample you gave has good detail and good tonal range, it's impressive.

Now that's a really expensive phone considering you can find excellent point and shoot cameras that fit in your pocket for half that price.. a used X100T for about 600 euros will give you more control and more options for your creativity (except the ultra wide, that's a nice feature!).

Do you like using it? I have large hands but I've always hated taking pictures with smartphones.

Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Akira on March 09, 2020, 18:48:23
Sten, I'm simply overwhelmed by everything you have posted so far...
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: CS on March 09, 2020, 18:58:52
I truly believe in the capabilities of new smartphones, and they will evolve even further.
The IQ of your examples is really good. So good, that I would not have noticed had you said that you used an SLR camera.

+1!
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Nikfuson on March 10, 2020, 12:20:01
Looks like you know how to post-process and how to shoot with a wide-angle. The B&W sample you gave has good detail and good tonal range, it's impressive.

Now that's a really expensive phone considering you can find excellent point and shoot cameras that fit in your pocket for half that price.. a used X100T for about 600 euros will give you more control and more options for your creativity (except the ultra wide, that's a nice feature!).

Do you like using it? I have large hands but I've always hated taking pictures with smartphones.

It always takes a while to get comfy with a new model but so far it has not disappointed at all. Granted, up against a real camera the phone can't compete but it offers the "present at all times" which is hard/impossible to beat. As for the price it is available at a huge discount to me personally as it is my work phone.
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Nikfuson on March 10, 2020, 12:21:30
Here's a close comparison of the phone towards my Z6 & 50/1.8S.
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Bent Hjarbo on March 10, 2020, 13:25:26
Difficult to see any difference in the NG setup :o
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Erik Lund on March 10, 2020, 13:29:37
Very nice sample images, really shines for quick documentary work and all of the social media stuff! ;)
Thanks for sharing ;)
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Birna Rørslett on March 10, 2020, 14:38:51
As long as the light is good and view size is moderate, modern smartphones can deliver truly excellent images. Outside this perimeter they show their true nature being heavily post-processed output from their tiny sensors.
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Nikfuson on March 15, 2020, 10:17:33
Utilizing the 13mm option yielded IMO a good result when shooting from a very low vantage point. Maybe the oof rendering leaves something to be desired.
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Kenneth Rich on March 15, 2020, 15:51:50
Typo? Is it oof rendering, dof rendering or woof rendering?
Title: Re: iPhone 11 Pro Max - camera exploration
Post by: Nikfuson on March 15, 2020, 17:40:04
Typo? Is it oof rendering, dof rendering or woof rendering?

Out of focus (bokeh).