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Gear Talk => Camera Talk => Topic started by: Frode on November 30, 2019, 22:23:51

Title: Mirrorless and banding
Post by: Frode on November 30, 2019, 22:23:51

Using my D850 in LV I can use silent mode. Sometimes getting banding indoors due to type of light - as expected. Slower shutterspeed (1/100 or 1/50) takes care of that - if not in need of faster SS of course 🙂.

How does the mirrorless (Z6/7) perform regarding silent shooting and banding, especially indoors?

Title: Re: Mirrorless and banding
Post by: Jack Dahlgren on November 30, 2019, 22:39:27

Quote from: Frode on November 30, 2019, 22:23:51

Using my D850 in LV I can use silent mode. Sometimes getting banding indoors due to type of light - as expected. Slower shutterspeed (1/100 or 1/50) takes care of that - if not in need of faster SS of course 🙂.

How does the mirrorless (Z6/7) perform regarding silent shooting and banding, especially indoors?

Pretty much the same. I use silent shutter almost all the time unless I see an issue.

Title: Re: Mirrorless and banding
Post by: Frode on November 30, 2019, 23:00:10

Quote from: Jack Dahlgren on November 30, 2019, 22:39:27

Pretty much the same. I use silent shutter almost all the time unless I see an issue.

Same problem with banding (and rolling shutter?), only faster AF when using the EVF, I guess?

In other words when lighting gives us banding and the subject is moving relative fast, we have to choose between sharp image with banding vs blurry and non- banding, no mather dslr or mirrorless (exept for the Sony A9, I guess?

Banding happens at same SS no matter dslr or mirrorless?

Title: Re: Mirrorless and banding
Post by: golunvolo on November 30, 2019, 23:26:47

https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=8075.705
https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=8075.720
https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=8075.735
In this  pages the fenomenom is explored.Quote from Birna: Keep shutter speed preferably slower than a full cycle (50Hz in Europe) and you'll be fine -- no banding.
That seams to work so far.

Title: Re: Mirrorless and banding
Post by: Frode on December 01, 2019, 00:02:05

Quote from: golunvolo on November 30, 2019, 23:26:47

https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=8075.705
https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=8075.720
https://nikongear.net/revival/index.php?topic=8075.735
In this  pages the fenomenom is explored.Quote from Birna: Keep shutter speed preferably slower than a full cycle (50Hz in Europe) and you'll be fine -- no banding.
That seams to work so far.

Thank you 🙂!

Title: Re: Mirrorless and banding
Post by: Tristin on December 16, 2019, 08:48:05

Banding is present in the Z6 if you lift the exposure/shadows, even at ISO 100.  Don't expect it to pull single shot HDRs like you can a D750/D8XX.  If you aren't lifting shadows or exposure though, you won't see it until higher ISOs, where patterned noise is recognizable. 

Title: Re: Mirrorless and banding
Post by: Fons Baerken on December 16, 2019, 13:17:49

I noticed this too on the Z6, files are very susceptible to banding, even high contrast nefs, faststone image viewer which shows the embedded jpgs in their viewer, strong banding in the sky in the shape of cloudlike shapes of a different hues.

Here is an article on banding.

https://photographylife.com/what-is-color-banding-and-how-to-fix-it (https://photographylife.com/what-is-color-banding-and-how-to-fix-it)