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Gear Talk => What the Nerds Do => Topic started by: Akira on October 11, 2019, 12:23:25

Title: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Akira on October 11, 2019, 12:23:25
There are lots of attractive photo opportunities for which one needs to work in very or even totally dark conditions, nightscapes, star trails, aurora borealis and fluorescence just to name a few.

One of the problems of such occasions is the difficulty to see the settings of the equipment.  Normal flash lights won't be appropriate here, because they are blindingly bright and you would lose the sight for a while.  The LCDs on the camera will show the camera's and often the lens' settings as well, but they also can be too bright.  Some cameras offer a "dark mode" that turns the display to red.  Cameras of classical film camera design (like Nikon Df or many Fujifilm digitals) can be set without relying on the LCD, but it is difficult to see the scales and indexes on the dials.

Then I came up with the idea of a "dark red flashlight".  Contrary to the modern flashlights boasting of their brightness, this one is trying to go as dim as possible without losing its function.

Here is the process:

1. The main parts: from top right, counter clockwise: a battery holder, a 1.8k ohm resistor, a "high brightness" red LED, a thin momentary switch, a generic ABS plastic case and a CR2032 battery.

Why a "high brightness" LED for a flashlight that needs to be as dim as possible?  Because you can keep the ampere as low as possible!  A brilliant idea for a dim flashlight, isn't it?  :D

With the 3.0V lithium battery CR2032 and the 1.8k ohm resistor, the LED is driven only at roughly 0.5mA, which should be beneficial for sparing the battery life as well as working in very low temperatures.

2.  I drilled the hole into the bottom part of the plastic case at an angle of approximately 45 degree.  By directing the LED downwards, you can somewhat prevent your eyes from looking at the light source directly.  I need to cut a square hole in the top part of the case in order to accommodate the contacts of the switch.  Both the switch and the LED are glued using the UV-cure glue.

3.  The wiring is done.  I decided to connect the switch, the battery and the LED with long cables.  The battery holder can hold the battery quite tightly, and I found the inserting and removing the battery a bit fiddly.  So, I didn't fix the holder to the case and connect to other parts with long cables so that I can insert/remove the battery more conveniently.

4&5.  The finished thingie.

6.  And this is how the scales and indexes are lit.
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Bent Hjarbo on October 11, 2019, 13:34:11
Very nice, good inspiration. :)
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Hugh_3170 on October 11, 2019, 13:46:01
Nice work Akira.

IIRC, modern aircracft instruments are red in night mode.
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: PeterN on October 11, 2019, 14:10:14
Really cool and a smart solution!
Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Erik Lund on October 11, 2019, 14:41:06
Nice one! Should be build into the IR remote controls for the cameras  8)
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Akira on October 11, 2019, 15:10:21
Thank you, Bent, Hugh, Peter and Erik!

IIRC, modern aircracft instruments are red in night mode.

That makes sense.  I knew about the dim red "night mode" when the updated firmware for Panasonic G9 added the function.


Nice one! Should be build into the IR remote controls for the cameras  8)

I also thought about modifying ML-L3 that I still have but couldn't figure out the way to disassemble it.   ::)
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Airy on October 11, 2019, 16:30:03
Good idea. At the army (1983), we also had red lights for reading maps etc. at night. Standard equipment, and an absolute must. Also valid for astronomers.
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Tristin on October 11, 2019, 17:00:38
Great idea.  I've long wished bodies incorporated a small red light on the VF hump angled to illuminate lens data.  There was that Pentax that hard lights a handful of years ago, but seems to be it.
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: mxbianco on October 11, 2019, 21:03:56
There is an explanation in human physiology: dark red is the only type of visible light that will not cause the human eye's pupil to shrink (or at least to shrink negligibly), so a very little amount of red light will cause menus to be more visible than if you use another color, the worst being a blue led.

Kudos to Akira for the nice work!

Ciao from Massimo
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Fons Baerken on October 11, 2019, 21:12:55
Well done Akira
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Akira on October 11, 2019, 23:25:39
Thank you, Airy, Tristin, Massimo and Fons!

At the army (1983), we also had red lights for reading maps etc. at night. Standard equipment, and an absolute must. Also valid for astronomers.

There is an explanation in human physiology: dark red is the only type of visible light that will not cause the human eye's pupil to shrink (or at least to shrink negligibly), so a very little amount of red light will cause menus to be more visible than if you use another color, the worst being a blue led.

Thank you for the interesting additional info from your real experience and scientific knowledge.


I've long wished bodies incorporated a small red light on the VF hump angled to illuminate lens data.  There was that Pentax that hard lights a handful of years ago, but seems to be it.

Actually my initial idea was to mount the red light onto the hotshoe,  But I changed the concept after realizing that one would need to see the equipment other than the camera body.  Also, you would have to make it brighter if you want to light wider areas at a time.
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Tristin on October 12, 2019, 00:24:45
Red light is standard night equipment for the military because the beam isn't visible, and the illumination is much harder to see at a distance.  Also the reason I'd like red illumination on my camera, it's nice to not be noticed when shooting at night.
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Akira on October 12, 2019, 01:08:06
Red light is standard night equipment for the military because the beam isn't visible, and the illumination is much harder to see at a distance.  Also the reason I'd like red illumination on my camera, it's nice to not be noticed when shooting at night.

Well, I have some extra parts for the project and bought plastic hotshoe covers.  I may make one based on the initial idea.  Illuminating focusing scale and aperture index on lens from the hotshoe sounds like a good idea.
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Tristin on October 12, 2019, 01:12:38
I may make one based on the initial idea.

You are not alone, thanks for the inspiration!  One of those occasions where a 3d printer would be handy.  This would be especially handy shooting manual with Z bodies as I can no longer see my selected aperture.  As things currently stand, I have to whip out my phone to illuminate my lens in order to change aperture sometimes.   :-\  OT, but the day someone makes an FTZ with aperture register is the day my wallet shrinks.

Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: armando_m on October 12, 2019, 01:58:44
red light is required during the astronomy nights, if someone uses white light they get a quick reminder to turn it off

led lamps use pulses vs dc current to save battery, but that will require a bit of circuitry perhaps not worth the effort given the elegant simplicity of your lamp
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: armando_m on October 12, 2019, 02:02:20
one more thing is tape red fluorecent light tubes to the tripod legs, it helps prevent kicking accidentally and also finding it if you walk away more than a couple steps
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Akira on October 12, 2019, 03:57:12
red light is required during the astronomy nights, if someone uses white light they get a quick reminder to turn it off

led lamps use pulses vs dc current to save battery, but that will require a bit of circuitry perhaps not worth the effort given the elegant simplicity of your lamp

one more thing is tape red fluorecent light tubes to the tripod legs, it helps prevent kicking accidentally and also finding it if you walk away more than a couple steps

Thank you, Armando.  The pulse would be nice, but it could be a bit tricky to make the whole circuit small enough to go into this particular housing.

Also, thank you for the advice of using the fluorescent red tube on the tripod.  That would also work when I use the tripod along the street or on the sidewalk.  In that case, the phosphorescent tapes (not necessarily red) would work, too.
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Bear Dale on October 12, 2019, 05:29:28
Nice work Akira.
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 12, 2019, 14:28:47
lit!
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: mxbianco on October 12, 2019, 18:03:54
Thank you, Airy, Tristin, Massimo and Fons!

Thank you for the interesting additional info from your real experience and scientific knowledge.


Actually my initial idea was to mount the red light onto the hotshoe,  But I changed the concept after realizing that one would need to see the equipment other than the camera body.  Also, you would have to make it brighter if you want to light wider areas at a time.

BTW, fingers crossed for the big one coming... You have the right attitude towards catastrophes, increasing the heartbeat does not help!

Ciao from Massimo
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 12, 2019, 19:59:56
stay safe, dear friend
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Anthony on October 13, 2019, 00:06:47
Keep safe, Akira.
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: JJChan on October 13, 2019, 01:13:51
Yes please keep safe Akira
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Akira on October 13, 2019, 01:26:23
Nice work Akira.

Thank you, Bear.


And thank you, Massimo, Frank, Anthony and JJ for your concern.

My place was not at all damaged.  But this Hagibis typhoon brought insane amount of rain that caused severe floods all along its course.  Many people are suffering...
Title: Re: A little DIY project with the huge typhoon approacing
Post by: Akira on October 15, 2019, 08:22:30
Just found that my Fuji X-T3 does have the night mode.   ::) ::) ::)