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Images => People, Portraits, Street, PJ & Cityscapes => Topic started by: Ron Scubadiver on July 25, 2015, 17:12:40
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(https://ronscubadiver.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/dsc_6518.jpg)
July, 2015, Seattle
From this batch: https://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com/2015/07/25/seattle-monochromes/ (https://ronscubadiver.wordpress.com/2015/07/25/seattle-monochromes/)
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Do they really drink coffee through straws ? I am all astonishment. What next ...
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It's probably some fancy coffee with ice, flavorings and cream, not the usual stuff we try to start the day with.
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Nicely captured. Perhaps they drink warm ice-cream with a coffee smell ?
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good image and conversion Ron
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It's probably some fancy coffee with ice, flavorings and cream, not the usual stuff we try to start the day with.
They might even be using flavored straws like Chocolate!
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It's probably some fancy coffee with ice, flavorings and cream, not the usual stuff we try to start the day with.
They might even be using flavored straws like Chocolate!
I want a chocolate straw!
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it is the current version of milk shakes, there is a coffee stand at work that sells this kind of stuff, it's hard for me to keep a straight face when you hear the orders , with all the odd combinations of milk, coffee, flavorings , specially when coming from a big bearded guy
nice shot Ron !
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I like this shot, and the b/w conversion is excellent.
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I don't have any idea what people are seeing that I'm not.
This is a picture of two random females holding cups of coffee.
What is unusual, interesting or beautiful about this that I should be seeing?
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I don't have any idea what people are seeing that I'm not.
This is a picture of two random females holding cups of coffee.
What is unusual, interesting or beautiful about this that I should be seeing?
For starters there are 3 females holding cups of coffee. If you don't like it, that's how it goes.
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Liking or disliking is irrelevant here.
I just don't understand what you think is interesting, important or humorous or whatever that caused you to take the picture, decide to convert it to BW and then post it.
I don't understand why people are making compliments about the picture because I have no idea what they are seeing that they like.
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People don't necessary have to *like* a picture to make comments about it. Personally I find such apparently random windows into street life not very interesting unless one notices a reason for its being other than that the camera and lens pointed in that particular direction.
However, as any photo is like opening a window into a new world or landscape, we can observe details that spark off puzzlement or beg for asking more questions. I think that is what happened here. Many of us have a relationship to the beverage allegedly carried by the people inside the street view.
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As a fixed time shot it works for me. The coffee strawed by these women is a sign of our consumating modern time.
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What is unusual, interesting or beautiful about this that I should be seeing?
I think this is a good example of what used to be called "slice of life" photography, a term which seems more appropriate than it's modern equivalent, "street". There is an interesting interplay of light and shade, there is interplay between the two principal figures, there is the coffee - times three - and the image is an excellent example of b/w conversion, something I don't always manage to my own satisfaction. So there is actually quite a lot going on.
I don't always like Ron's work (he should care!) but this works for me, though it's hard to say exactly why.
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Why do street-photo's work, or not ?
Obviously there is a subjective manner to it. You like it or not. But in this case it's adding some things up. (at least for me)
The symmetry of the three woman, the heads, the coffee cans, the feet, and the different attitude of the middle one.
Then we have an attention point to the right side of the two woman, and interestingly not the middle one who is addressing her friend. (as it looks like) but we really don't know.
There is also the public transportation in the background, the two buses, and one can ask why they are walking in the middle of the street with these coffee cans, which relates to the remark of Sten regarding overconsumption, or something like 'indecent consumptional behaviour in public'.
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Hmm, since it is not in Critique section I can not be sure if any critique would be welcome here, but the conversation here is rather interesting.
It looks like photographers with experience of shooting street see street shots quite differently compared to other folks. I know that Lew treats street photography with respect and expects certain standard. Others may accept it as a "slice of life" or a "window into the world" and be happy to see "stuff" and find that "something is going on".
Almost any random street shot is a slice of life, a window into the world, and in most cases there is something going on. There are always some legs and heads and buses, pavement is almost guaranteed, and you can find a lot of other stuff if you are hard pressed. So to me, as another street shooter, it all means nothing, absolutely nothing. It is like looking at a chair in a furniture shop saying: "Look, there is some wood, and fabric, and also nails, and it has paint on it, so why don't we buy this chair?".
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I am a bit surprised about the extent of the discussion.
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It's probably some fancy coffee with ice, flavorings and cream, not the usual stuff we try to start the day with.
Go ahead, Ron...say it....Frappuccino
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Frappuccino... that feels good.I am back in Houston. It is 39C and humid. My yard looks half dead. Workmen will not return until Monday to rip out what is left of the kitchen in preparation for building a new one.
I believe what I do is within the definition of street photography. When I first started to take a lot of photos of what could be described as good looking women in public places, it caused an uproar. Flickr considered such material to be voyeurism and deleted accounts (including mine) for publishing such material. Until recently there was a risk of prosecution for merely taking such photos in Texas, but the State courts threw the law out.
It appears things have changed.
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I believe what I do is within the definition of street photography. When I first started to take a lot of photos of what could be described as good looking women in public places, it caused an uproar. Flickr considered such material to be voyeurism and deleted accounts (including mine) for publishing such material. Until recently there was a risk of prosecution for merely taking such photos in Texas, but the State courts threw the law out.
It appears things have changed.
Sorry to be so long getting back here; incidents on the home front have tied up virtually all of my time and the entirety of my attention.
Ron, in the quoted words above, you seem to be trying to portray yourself as the victim of some sort of puritanical point of view.
From my standpoint, no.
I didn't find your pictures of good looking females interesting as pictures but if that's how you want to spend your efforts, go to it.
My attitude here is that you went to the effort to catch a picture and then converted it to B&W - and I would have thought that you had a reason for the subject, the composition and the framing and then the conversion.
And I couldn't see what you were trying to show?
And I couldn't understand what people were 'liking.'
AFA I c[size=78%]ould tell, this could have been a single random frame from a camera set off with an interval timer - and chosen because there were intact people in the frame.[/size]
And that was my question.
There must have been intent - and that is the common factor in photography - what is the intent here.
Sure, I guess it can be dropped into the bin of street photography but just classifying something isn't enough.
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May I agree with Lew without stepping on anybody's toes?
I am missing the story or the context.
That of course doesn't mean that street photos shouldn't be taken or published :)
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Well, the fact that many people can't be in the street (or anywhere for some) without eating or drinking something they purchased says something to me, and something I don't really understand or appreciate.
Maybe this was Ron's point? Maybe not.
I don't care much for the shot as a picture, but at least it got me to think about our crazy world.
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"I don't care much for the shot as a picture, but at least it got me to think about our crazy world. "
Not every picture displayed on the web will elicit that response. So maybe Ron has accomplished a mission?
Photography has many aspects. We often tend to equate technical excellence with a "good" image. The discussion here shows other sides can be rewarding to discuss as well. There is nothing "right" in the world of photography.
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That the world is crazy, silly or odd is a regular theme for me. Lew, I think you are overdoing it.
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Having no intention to highjack the thread, I hope you do not mind me sharing here a couple of "Coffee in London" photos. These guys started to sell coffee at the Underground on my way to the office two or three weeks ago. The idea was great - London Black Cab Coffee, the most London coffee you can imagine (especially if there is a red double decker bus on the background). They had no customers for a while, but it changed recently, they have a lot of customers. A cup of this hipster's Black Cab Coffee on the go is £5, not cheap even in London. But they have a proper coffee machine. I would have tried it, had I not be always late for the office.
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That is a lot of pounds for a cup of coffee. I don't mind when people add more photos to my threads. Warm clothing looks so alien to me. It is rarely cold enough in Houston during the day to need a coat.