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Gear Talk => What the Nerds Do => Topic started by: richardHaw on July 01, 2018, 16:50:39

Title: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: richardHaw on July 01, 2018, 16:50:39
http://richardhaw.com/2018/07/01/repair-nikkor-180mm-f-2-8-ed-ai-s/

had to rush this to help somebody  :o :o :o I was too late but I hope this will help others
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: Bruno Schroder on July 09, 2018, 18:50:56
It will help me, I have one with a little bit of fungus. Thanks, Richard.
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: richardHaw on July 10, 2018, 02:17:45
It will help me, I have one with a little bit of fungus. Thanks, Richard.

be careful with the front element!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: Roland Vink on July 17, 2018, 23:14:19
The front element is ED glass, which is softer than normal glass ...
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: richardHaw on July 18, 2018, 02:25:41
The front element is ED glass, which is softer than normal glass ...

ED and soft used in the same sentence  :o :o :o

only mr Akira will understand this aside from me  ::)
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: Akira on July 18, 2018, 03:00:20
ED and soft used in the same sentence  :o :o :o

only mr Akira will understand this aside from me  ::)

Rick, I don't understand what you mean.   :o :o :o

But that's what I understand about  the ED glass.  If I remember correctly, 180/2.8 and 200/2.0 Ais lenses are the only Nikkors using ED glass as the front element without the fixed protection glass (flat or slightly concave).
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: richardHaw on July 18, 2018, 03:09:51
ED is "機能不全"  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: Akira on July 18, 2018, 03:17:15
ED is "機能不全"  :o :o :o

 ;D
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: Roland Vink on July 18, 2018, 03:41:06
Most (all?) of the early ED lenses used ED glass on the front element, including the early ED telephotos for the AU-1 focus unit, and early AI and AIS ED telephotos. Nikon stated their ED glass was robust enough to be used on the front element, unlike the fluorite used by some competitors. However Nikon did recommend using large UV filters to protect the ED glass from damage.

In the mid 1980s Nikon upgraded a number of their earlier IF-ED telephotos, and among the changes, the front element was now protected by a permanent fixed front protection lens. Maybe due to feedback from professional, Nikon realised the ED glass was more vulnerable than first thought. Since then all big telephotos have had a front protection lens, or the ED glass was not used as the front element.
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: Akira on July 18, 2018, 03:44:42
Roland, thank you for the correction.  I forgot about all of these super-teles.   :o :o :o  It is insanely hot in Tokyo!
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: richardHaw on July 18, 2018, 03:57:33
I remember working on a cracked front ED element before, it was a "Bruce Lee zoom"  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: Snoogly on September 21, 2021, 09:34:58
I need to attempt this soon. Just obtained a lens with clearish optics, but a stiff-ish. Helicoid. Usable, but not buttery.

I am now balancing the risk of repair vs living with a stiff one.
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: richardHaw on September 21, 2021, 12:04:04
overhaul :o :o :o
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: Snoogly on September 25, 2021, 09:28:10
I really don't know how it happened, but somehow I took it apart without removing the helicoid keys. I did try, but had a screw that refused to budge, even with heat. As I was fumbling, the helicoids somehow separated! Though I was quick enough to mark the separation points.

Assembling the lens after cleaning was like a rubrics cube  :-\ But, touch wood, it seems fine now.

In fact I was surprised at how simple it is inside. Clearly it's the glass that makes it magic!
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: Dogman on September 25, 2021, 15:12:11
 ;D Old photographer and his stories.  I think it was the 180/2.8 model prior to the one here but....

In the 1980s, I was working for a daily newspaper.  I was on an assignment shooting mugs (head and shoulders) at an interview.  I wanted a tight shot of the guy's face so I moved in close and used the 180mm.  I started focusing and I kept moving closer and closer and keeping the face in focus until I realized the lens had separated into two parts.  Totally embarrassed, I backed away and used an 85mm to finish the assignment.  I do recall I got some really tight shots of the subject before the "incident".
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: Snoogly on September 25, 2021, 17:36:06
It’s easily done!
Title: Re: Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED Ai-S repair!!!
Post by: MILLIREHM on September 26, 2021, 23:50:17
... However Nikon did recommend using large UV filters to protect the ED glass from damage.

...
Nikon offered its L37C Filters upt to 160mm size