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Title: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: gullosaurus on May 05, 2017, 23:11:36
Hi all,

I know Nikon has removed these for some reason but I wonder if anyone out there has saved any of the articles ? I stumbled across an archive page the other day but can't seem to get into it any more....

Interested in tales 5,20,41,45 specifically.

Thanks
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: gullosaurus on May 05, 2017, 23:35:45
Disregard, found the archive. If anyone else is interested the archive link is :-

http://imaging.nikon.com:80/history/nikkor/
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: gullosaurus on May 05, 2017, 23:45:05
You need to be in the Web Archive.org site for this to work....oops :)
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: gullosaurus on May 05, 2017, 23:49:51
https://web.archive.org/web/20131004035933/http://imaging.nikon.com:80/history/nikkor/
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: FGAng on May 07, 2017, 10:00:17
This is, unfortunately, incomplete.  1001 nights went up to Tale 60...
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: the solitaire on May 09, 2017, 09:22:54
Regardless of that, I did take the liberty to save as PDF that which was there
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: richardHaw on May 09, 2017, 10:15:14
yes, al least it is better than nothing. I saved 2 last weekend.
can you please confirm if you got the images for all of the pages? some pages have missing links!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: David H. Hartman on May 09, 2017, 13:37:47
Try this one...

https://web.archive.org/web/20161211185152/http://www.nikkor.com/story/

Dave
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: David H. Hartman on May 09, 2017, 13:41:05
Tale No.60 is missing from the above link. Does anyone here have that one?

Dave
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: FGAng on August 20, 2017, 15:31:20
It is back!

http://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/

But only up to tale 60.
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: Kenneth Rich on August 22, 2017, 05:37:23
Were there ever more than sixty tales completed?
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: Roland Vink on August 22, 2017, 09:25:57
Yes, since the English versions were pulled, there were two more in Japanese: 50-300/4.5 Auto, and AIS 50-135/3.5. It would be nice to read English versions of those articles.
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: Akira on August 22, 2017, 09:50:27
Yes, since the English versions were pulled, there were two more in Japanese: 50-300/4.5 Auto, and AIS 50-135/3.5. It would be nice to read English versions of those articles.

Yes, stay tuned!  ;)
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: Hugh_3170 on August 22, 2017, 14:43:37
This is a great series, with a really neat title, all of which I have enjoyed reading.  I look forward to new additions in due course.
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: David H. Hartman on August 22, 2017, 21:49:29
This post has been edited to pieces. I hope I finally have it straight...

There are three Tales that are currently labeled "13" which lead me to believe that *sweet Jane numbered them. There are 60 total. Are we English readers still short?

Dave

*She lost her sparkle, you know she isn't the same. :)

[58/1.2 Noct, 28-45/4.5 and 500/8.0 Reflex (in the index: 16, 15 and 13 respectively) are all labeled 13 internally. If you try using "Save page as" the HTML file name of each is identical and ends in 13. There are 60 tales total at the English site.]

Here is the link again...

http://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/ (http://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/)

If this isn't correct I'm giving up!
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: Roland Vink on August 22, 2017, 22:07:56
??? There is only one labelled "13" - http://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/0013/index.htm
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: David H. Hartman on August 22, 2017, 22:58:07
What kind of fool quotes himself? Me?

I've edited that post to pieces: this is the current version:

There are three Tales that are currently labeled "13" which lead me to believe that *sweet Jane numbered them. There are 60 total. Are we English readers still short?

Dave

*She lost her sparkle, you know she isn't the same. :)

[58/1.2 Noct, 28-45/4.5 and 500/8.0 Reflex (in the index: 16, 15 and 13 respectively) are all labeled 13 internally. If you try using "Save page as" the HTML file name of each is identical and ends in 13. There are 60 tales total at the English site.]

Here is the link again...

http://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/ (http://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/)

If this isn't correct I'm giving up!

---

Check it and see, I've got a fever of a hundred and three.
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: FGAng on October 16, 2017, 13:58:07
http://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/ is complete and up to date.

Tale 63 is a curious one,

The AF Zoom-Nikkor 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6G - The zoom lens that set the standard for kit lenses with its minimalistic structure

Haruo Sato

Seems Nikon is proud enough of this dinky lens to list it within the hall of fame...

I have 2 copies both in poor optical condition, not cleanable due to encased optical units.  But my curiosity is piqued - will  be looking for one in good optical condition to try it out.  Mechanically this is a terrible lens.
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: chambeshi on December 09, 2017, 16:16:32
I just read No 63, one of the best tales yet. And I especially enjoyed the explanation by Haruo Sato about the design challenges, namely why more lens elements are a "necessary evil", which is where the dinky 28-80 set the precedent for IQ trade offs. Arguably, the designs of the earlier medium zooms, including the 24-120 and 28-200 also set a trend for prominent kit Nikkor zooms.

http://imaging.nikon.com/history/story/ is complete and up to date.

Tale 63 is a curious one,

The AF Zoom-Nikkor 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6G - The zoom lens that set the standard for kit lenses with its minimalistic structure

Haruo Sato

Seems Nikon is proud enough of this dinky lens to list it within the hall of fame...

I have 2 copies both in poor optical condition, not cleanable due to encased optical units.  But my curiosity is piqued - will  be looking for one in good optical condition to try it out.  Mechanically this is a terrible lens.
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: richardHaw on December 09, 2017, 16:54:57
I just read No 63, one of the best tales yet. And I especially enjoyed the explanation by Haruo Sato about the design challenges, namely why more lens elements are a "necessary evil", which is where the dinky 28-80 set the precedent for IQ trade offs. Arguably, the designs of the earlier medium zooms, including the 24-120 and 28-200 also set a trend for prominent kit Nikkor zooms.

mr Sato told me himself that the lens was a difficult one to design because the money involved wasn't big and they wanted the production to be as cheap as possible. http://richardhaw.com/2017/12/09/world-of-f-mount-nikkors/ mr Sato and mr Oshita gave us a tour and I learned many things :o :o :o the cheapy zoom lenses was one of the topics. he also said that this is the father of all kit zooms. for the beginner, sharpness if the most important thing they wanted to see so he designed this to be really sharp ::)
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: chambeshi on December 09, 2017, 20:31:18
mr Sato told me himself that the lens was a difficult one to design because the money involved wasn't big and they wanted the production to be as cheap as possible. http://richardhaw.com/2017/12/09/world-of-f-mount-nikkors/ mr Sato and mr Oshita gave us a tour and I learned many things :o :o :o the cheapy zoom lenses was one of the topics. he also said that this is the father of all kit zooms. for the beginner, sharpness if the most important thing they wanted to see so he designed this to be really sharp ::)
Thank you Richard
Interesting feedback... I just read your post. Well, what a fascinating report on your tour! Eagerly awaiting the next installments :-)
best
woody
Title: Re: Nikkor Thousand and One Nights
Post by: JKoerner007 on December 10, 2017, 17:03:25
mr Sato told me himself that the lens was a difficult one to design because the money involved wasn't big and they wanted the production to be as cheap as possible. http://richardhaw.com/2017/12/09/world-of-f-mount-nikkors/ mr Sato and mr Oshita gave us a tour and I learned many things :o :o :o the cheapy zoom lenses was one of the topics. he also said that this is the father of all kit zooms. for the beginner, sharpness if the most important thing they wanted to see so he designed this to be really sharp ::)

Nice blog post :)