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Title: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on December 04, 2016, 00:17:00
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Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: MFloyd on December 04, 2016, 00:36:18
The 28-300mm lens is excellent; visit my thread http://nikongear.net/revival/index.php/topic,3741.msg56290.html#msg56290
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Pistnbroke on December 08, 2016, 13:47:50
The 28-300 with a D810 is my  standard wedding combo....Large basic at sharp +9 I have no problems
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on December 08, 2016, 14:38:53
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Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on December 21, 2016, 18:48:28
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/1/431/30957676843_2aa4e36853_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PaCbM2)2016-12-20 004-1 (https://flic.kr/p/PaCbM2) by (https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5553/30957669783_75fda8a421_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lo[url=https://flic.kr/p/PaC9Fi)2016-12-20 004-1-3 (https://flic.kr/p/PaC9Fi) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickrngzoom/]longzoom[/url], on Flickr.  This combo is at its best at f9.5, I believe, due to extremely demanding sensor. On the D800 body most useful aperture is f8.0, what is fully understandable. So the technical image with crop, at f 9.5.   LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on December 26, 2016, 16:47:32
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Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on February 28, 2017, 17:17:48
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3734/32355624253_5dbcb0438a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ria2Qz)014-1 (https://flic.kr/p/Ria2Qz) by (https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3772/33014496622_200af30c8e_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoo[url=https://flic.kr/p/SinVD1)014-1-2 (https://flic.kr/p/SinVD1) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickrm/]longzoom[/url], on Flickr.    The lens at 300mm, f8.0, ISO 100, 1/90.  Minimal distance.  The body was D800, I believe, but in this case, there is no much difference to the D810. An image with 100% crop.  TNX!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on March 01, 2017, 20:19:13
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Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 04, 2017, 17:34:22
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5441/30954677486_8d0a5d2253_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/PamPaY)20131120-girl picture copy-2 - Copy (https://flic.kr/p/PamPaY) by (https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5608/30954681476_97917ec333_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom[url=https://flic.kr/p/PamQmL)20131120-girl picture copy-2 - Copy-2 (https://flic.kr/p/PamQmL) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr/]longzoom[/url], on Flickr.   The lens at 135mm, f8.0. Crop. D800 body, but, on D810, the 28-300 lens is able to deliver even higher resolution, thru the zoom. THX! LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Fons Baerken on April 04, 2017, 17:52:19
How does it compare with the 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 vr?
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 04, 2017, 18:05:19
My former copy of 70-300VR was not as sharp as this one. Even sharper Tamron was not in the same league with good copy of the 28-300 lens from the very last batch from Nikon. But the 70-300VR is much more tolerable to FT, then the 28-300 is. As more complicated is optical formula of any Nikkor, as more difficult and critically responsible is Fine Tune. The 80-400G or 28-300, for example. It is my own opinion, of course. THX!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Akira on April 04, 2017, 20:09:01
VR70-300 seems to be renovated soon:

http://nikonrumors.com/2017/04/04/also-coming-soon-new-nikkor-af-p-70-300mm-f4-5-5-6-vr-lens.aspx/

I was not impressed by the current VR70-300.
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 04, 2017, 21:03:06
So was I, but the next P should be way better! LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Akira on April 04, 2017, 22:19:41
I hope so, too, because I think 70-300 is the best compromise between the compactness of 70-200 and the versatility of 80-400.
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Roland Vink on April 05, 2017, 04:24:35
The 70-200/4 is another good compromise if you don't need the extra reach. My guess is the new 70-300 will have the same 67mm filter as the current model and the 70-200/4. What Nikon really needs is a compact standard zoom - the 24-85VR is the smallest and quite bulky. Maybe something like 24-70/4, also with 67mm filter to match the tele-zooms. That would make a very nice two-lens kit.

Longzoom, you always get such great results with the 28-300 and 80-400!

Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Akira on April 05, 2017, 05:14:35
Whenever I used a 200mm lens, I always wanted the extra reach.  :D

To me, 70-200/4.0 is not really a "compromise", but it has its own place for its own right.  Given the close focus capability which is superior to the faster brother, if could even make up partially for the absence of the Zoom Micro 70-180.
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 05, 2017, 05:23:55
The 70-200/4 is another good compromise if you don't need the extra reach. My guess is the new 70-300 will have the same 67mm filter as the current model and the 70-200/4. What Nikon really needs is a compact standard zoom - the 24-85VR is the smallest and quite bulky. Maybe something like 24-70/4, also with 67mm filter to match the tele-zooms. That would make a very nice two-lens kit.

Longzoom, you always get such great results with the 28-300 and 80-400!
     Thank you, Roland! So far I am using old, small and very good 28-70/3.5-4.5, to complement my 80-400G, but new 24-70/4 VR will be great choice, in future! THX!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: chambeshi on April 05, 2017, 08:13:26
     Thank you, Roland! So far I am using old, small and very good 28-70/3.5-4.5, to compliment my 80-400G, but new 24-70/4 VR will be great choice, in future! THX!  LZ
As the 28-105 AFD is obsolete (but still useful), what about the 24-120 f4G VR ? So complementing a 70-300, although we see again here how well the 28-300 performs in its latest builds
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 05, 2017, 16:46:32
As the 28-105 AFD is obsolete (but still useful), what about the 24-120 f4G VR ? So complementing a 70-300, although we see again here how well the 28-300 performs in its latest builds
       I've no idea about 24-120/4 lens today. Have tried one from the very first batch, was not surprised. So far the 28-300 and old stunning (after adjusting!) 20/2.8 AFD making a good working pare for me. Very nicely complementing each other! THX!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 05, 2017, 16:50:36
Whenever I used a 200mm lens, I always wanted the extra reach.  :D

To me, 70-200/4.0 is not really a "compromise", but it has its own place for its own right.  Given the close focus capability which is superior to the faster brother, if could even make up partially for the absence of the Zoom Micro 70-180.
  I share the same point on the 70-200/4 lens. Will be interesting to try it with Canon 500D screw-up! THX! LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Danulon on April 09, 2017, 08:17:20
How to identify whether a sample is part of the latest production batch?
Does anyone have the serial number range of that batch?
Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 09, 2017, 14:06:25
How to identify whether a sample is part of the latest production batch?
Does anyone have the serial number range of that batch?
Thanks in advance!
     The SN range of Nikon's equipment is depending on country you are living in, as far as I know. You may try that genius Roland Vink's table. Or simply do what I did - go to the biggest store with huge revolving equipment scale, with good exchange policy, if needed. Good luck on this!   LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: MFloyd on April 09, 2017, 14:11:37
For info, my 28-300mm has as serial number 52185769 and is supposed to be of the last generation. At least, the quality is top.
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Hugh_3170 on April 09, 2017, 16:10:17
My current 28-300mm lens was purchased in Melbourne, Australia around late June 2013 and its Serial Number is 52, 149, 14x  (I have added the commas for clarity).

It replaced another 28-300mm which was destroyed in a fall.  It was also purchased in Melbourne, Australia in early 2012 IIRC and its Serial was 52, 001, 27x.

Maybe they were/are both of the so called last generation.  Personally I have not been able to tell them apart based on their optical performance, both of which have been excellent.  I realise that sample variation can play a part, and perhaps I have therefore simply been very lucky to have received two good lenses. 

EDIT:

Roland Vink's Nikon Lens Database lists the lens as having come onto the market from August 2010, and with Serial Numbers outside of the US being in the range 52000001 - 52210100, and Serial Numbers for the US market being in the range of: 56000001 - 56078890. 

Maybe there are further "Sub-Ranges" within these two broad ranges, or maybe a magic date where quality levels have been lifted?  I must admit that I am only guessing when I pose these two questions.

 
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Roland Vink on April 10, 2017, 00:06:55
Serial numbers for lenses are world-wide, but for some models there is a separate series for Nikon USA. I'm not sure why some models get USA serial numbers and others don't, it seems rather random to me. For example there does not appear to be US serial numbers for the AFS 20/1.8, 24/1.8 and 35/1.8, but there is for the AFS 28/1.8 and 50/1.8.

Serial numbers for Nikon cameras are regional (Japan, USA, Europe ...) except for most "pro" models.

For the Nikon 1 system, there are series by region and by color - too many combination, and too little data for me to track accurately so I gave up on them (besides there was little interest from me and not much demand from the general public)

Regarding the 28-300, I have seen nothing to suggest there are sub-series within the USA or World serial numbers. If there was a small gap of a few thousand, my data wouldn't pick it up since I don't generally get more than one serial number in thousands, so it could be possible. My feeling is that serial numbers are more or less continuous, and numbers are only reset for major changes such as shifting production from Japan to China. There may be minor silent changes along the way as the assembly line is refined, or cheaper/improved parts are used, which could mean lenses made later perform differently from earlier examples.
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on May 23, 2017, 05:24:10
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Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: David H. Hartman on May 23, 2017, 08:39:00
As the 28-105 AFD is obsolete (but still useful), what about the 24-120 f4G VR ? So complementing a 70-300, although we see again here how well the 28-300 performs in its latest builds

The quality of construction of the AF 28-105/3.5-4.5D doesn't match either the AF​ 28-70/3.5-4.5D or AF 35-105/3.5-4.5D Nikkors. The 28-105 has some binding when zooming at the wide end so it's​ difficult to set the zoom exactly​ where you want it (2 copies).. I think it's enharent vice.

These three lenses all have one aspheric element so a good copy gives a good optical performance. I returned one 28-70 for alignment problems and one 28-105 for a CPU contact problem. I sold one 28-105 as I preferred the small, discreet size of the others. These were all kit lenses so checking a new arrival for optical issues is wize. There may be problems that aren't apperant from the external aperance.

Dave Hartman
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Øivind Tøien on May 23, 2017, 10:08:25
The quality of construction of the AF 28-105/3.5-4.5D doesn't match either the AF​ 28-70/3.5-4.5D or AF 35-105/3.5-4.5D Nikkors. The 28-105 has some binding when zooming at the wide end so it's​ difficult to set the zoom exactly​ where you want it (2 copies).. I think it's enharent vice.

No binding at the wide on on my copy of the AF 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5D, just a little the last few mm at the long end (perhaps by design). But it has too many (prime lens) competitors and have not seen much use in the digital age on DX format. For a long while it was boxed up with the intention of selling it - presently sitting as a body cap on my D200 ...
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on July 08, 2017, 18:18:56
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4266/34958475904_e01946e8e4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VgajXb)2017-07-07 004-1 (https://flic.kr/p/VgajXb) by (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4284/35410141880_b702fcb735_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/ph[url=https://flic.kr/p/VX5evA)2017-07-07 004-1-2 (https://flic.kr/p/VX5evA) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickrotos/longzoom/]longzoom[/url], (https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4277/35410133560_e49118dfc5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/VX5c39)2017-07-07 004-1-3 (https://flic.kr/p/VX5c39) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickron Flickr.   The same combo, at 300mm, f8.0, 2 crops. THX!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: John Geerts on July 08, 2017, 21:38:05
The first one is great. I like the detailed silhouettes against the foggy background.
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on July 08, 2017, 21:56:28
Thank you, John!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on July 11, 2017, 15:28:30
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Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on July 30, 2017, 10:19:41
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Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on December 09, 2017, 18:00:21
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Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on March 25, 2018, 13:45:44
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4775/40946016352_935b183e59_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25og38b)2018-03-22 061-1 (https://flic.kr/p/25og38b) by longzoom[url=https://flic.kr/p/247uiWr](https://farm1.staticflickr.com/813/40111185305_bf6bbec985_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/)2018-03-22 061-1-4 (https://flic.kr/p/247uiWr) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/),(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/788/40094630335_bb7b674f6d_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2462sHV)2018-03-22 061-1-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2462sHV) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/)(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4771/40111178975_5f69fd1d56_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/247uh4i)2018-03-22 061-1-3 (https://flic.kr/p/247uh4i) by longzoo[url=https://flic.kr/p/25tq1Ex](https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4772/41004349931_010c079a14_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/)2018-03-22 061-1-5 (https://flic.kr/p/25tq1Ex) by     While this image is nothing special, trivial enough from family album, I wanna concentrate on a technical side. Firstly - 2 huge crops clearly demonstrating very high resolving power, evenly covering the full sensor. Secondly - bokeh in highlights is not the best ever seen, but acceptable, to my taste. And thirdly - shadow bokeh is much better to any taste, I somehow believe.   At 300mm, f9.5. PS. The tree was down by heavy snow and wind, Prospect Park, Brooklyn, NY.  LZ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/)
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on March 30, 2018, 06:54:09
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/895/40353814374_5f0610ff3e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24tVR7f)2018-03-27 032-1 (https://flic.kr/p/24tVR7f) by (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/794/26191653267_f75dfc7440_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lon[url=https://flic.kr/p/FUt51K)2018-03-27 032-1-2 (https://flic.kr/p/FUt51K) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickrgzoom/]longzoom[/url], on Flickr.    Summarized resolving power of the SYSTEM is very high, crop is detailed enough for high magnification. Some very low level of CA could be forgiven for such the prosumer lens, at 300mm.  Click on the main image for full EXIF. THX!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Pistnbroke on April 01, 2018, 13:44:58
The point of the 28-300 is that you  don't need a two lens kit.  Why would you carry two lenses ?  Why would you mess about with lens  caps and where do you carry the spare lens ?

No no one lens one camera.
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 01, 2018, 15:05:35
Actually, yes. But for long travel I always carry yet my old/new (for me)  Tok 17.  Both they are making an unbeatable combo for any vacation/travel situation, as for me, of course! THX!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Pistnbroke on April 02, 2018, 08:26:48
I have a 14mm Samy that I pair with the 28-300 but on a separate body.
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: OCD on April 03, 2018, 01:31:19
LZ, you might like this one by Jay Maisel: http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2319595&seqNum=2
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 03, 2018, 02:31:46
LZ, you might like this one by Jay Maisel: http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2319595&seqNum=2
  Wow, that's interesting! Thank you!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Fons Baerken on April 03, 2018, 07:20:13
He doesnt say much about the 28-300mm, does he.
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 03, 2018, 13:47:51
True, indeed, not much. But his philosophy and his own space in photography, what is very interesting for me! LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Fons Baerken on April 03, 2018, 19:33:01
True, indeed, not much. But his philosophy and his own space in photography, what is very interesting for me! LZ

Gotcha!

https://www.all-about-photo.com/photographers/photographer.php?id=344&name=jay-maisel (https://www.all-about-photo.com/photographers/photographer.php?id=344&name=jay-maisel)
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 06, 2018, 15:30:20
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/868/41107238341_a4928f3ce5_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25CvkND)2018-03-29 029-1-3 (https://flic.kr/p/25CvkND) by (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/813/41107231581_c07654d508_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/phot[url=https://flic.kr/p/25CviN6)2018-03-29 029-1-2 (https://flic.kr/p/25CviN6) by (https://farm1.staticflickr.com/874/40212700665_c1bac8ec69_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos[url=https://flic.kr/p/24gsAVg)2018-03-29 029-1-4 (https://flic.kr/p/24gsAVg) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr/longzoom/]longzoom[/url], on Flickros/longzoom/]longzoom[/url], on Flickr.   I think I've reached my goal here - high level of detailing as well as excellent DR of the system. So the image itself, 2 crops. THX!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Fons Baerken on April 06, 2018, 16:50:55
My take, LZ you have me convinced as a do-all for certain situations.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/807/26404554417_2eb033fa5d_o.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/893/27403587218_197bde2a99_o.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/889/40561996724_1973ce7b11_o.jpg)

not the sharpest in my book but fair enough, and the 28mm lock is a convenient plus
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 06, 2018, 18:26:37
Glad to see your beautiful images, made by this wonder lens, Fons! Thanks for posting!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on June 11, 2018, 04:56:15
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1729/27856471247_af736f76e2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JrzGp2)2018-05-08 013-1-2 (https://flic.kr/p/JrzGp2) by longz[url=https://flic.kr/p/JrzDVK](https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1742/27856462937_1f89b4b6d2_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/)2018-05-08 013-1 (https://flic.kr/p/JrzDVK) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickroom[/url], on Flickr(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1754/42676301672_f365464920_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/282acEG)2018-05-18 002-1 (https://flic.kr/p/282acEG) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr.     THX!  Longzoom
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 14, 2019, 12:43:24
I did try this lens as a combo with Z7. Much lighter, smaller set. My own conclusion - usable, F8.0 inside and flash, 11 outside. Forget about 5.6 - the lens is eating alive by that new sensor, at 16 strong diffraction ruined the image.  LZ (https://live.staticflickr.com/7806/33728059378_0ad239393f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Tor7Z9)2019-04-13_4-1 (https://flic.kr/p/Tor7Z9) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr.(https://live.staticflickr.com/7922/40638888343_b32e748cea_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24V7VEF)2019-04-13_4-1-2 (https://flic.kr/p/24V7VEF) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 14, 2019, 12:47:35
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7806/46689607285_9dbed7fe70_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2e8NrB4)2019-04-13_9-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2e8NrB4) by (https://live.staticflickr.com/7881/47552260652_be2a4b0394_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoo[url=https://flic.kr/p/2fs2LoY)2019-04-13_9-1-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2fs2LoY) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickrm/]longzoom[/url], on Flickr
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 14, 2019, 12:51:55
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7819/47552271072_815bfbb3fc_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fs2PuC)2019-04-13_5-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2fs2PuC) by (https://live.staticflickr.com/7814/46689609715_27180cd17f_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom[url=https://flic.kr/p/2e8NsjX)2019-04-13_5-1-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2e8NsjX) by [url=https://flic.kr/p/24V7ZKK](https://live.staticflickr.com/7841/40638902093_8e9ee31c8d_k.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/)2019-04-13_1-1 (https://flic.kr/p/24V7ZKK) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/),(https://live.staticflickr.com/7886/40638899633_2cb5013baa_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24V7Z2k)2019-04-13_1-1-2 (https://flic.kr/p/24V7Z2k) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr on Flickrlongzoom[/url], on Flickr/]longzoom[/url], on Flickr
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on April 14, 2019, 13:01:01
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7907/47552273492_b067e7dde8_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fs2Qdm)2019-04-13_6-1 (https://flic.kr/p/2fs2Qdm) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr.     Do not judge these images very critically - I just try to show technical side. This sensor is not copy of any previous one, not even close. The new one carries wider DR, sharper, more detailed, wider gamut. Please note - it is my own conclusion, nothing more! THX!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on August 25, 2019, 06:12:55
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48614458591_66d6902a9d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h4TNQx)2019-08-15 (https://flic.kr/p/2h4TNQx) by (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48614105253_0cf5e4bf06_h.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/l[url=https://flic.kr/p/2h4RZNv)2019-08-15-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2h4RZNv) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickrongzoom/]longzoom[/url], on Flickr(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48614435196_a10b855452_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h4TFTb)2019-08-17_24 (https://flic.kr/p/2h4TFTb) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48614081673_a8728b9eb1_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h4RSMX)2019-08-17_24-3 (https://flic.kr/p/2h4RSMX) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr.   Two picks, two crops. Second one was taken under condition of very foggy night...  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on September 08, 2019, 08:31:58
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48614596292_663deb91bc_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h4UvLG)2019-08-17_20 (https://flic.kr/p/2h4UvLG) by (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48614094598_918d80aa74_b.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/[url=https://flic.kr/p/2h4RWCN)2019-08-17_20-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2h4RWCN) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr]longzoom[/url], on Flickr(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48614450011_80372e2bec_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2h4TLhB)2019-08-17_1 (https://flic.kr/p/2h4TLhB) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr    Very foggy was at this night. Upper image with crop, where you are able to see some detailing at the fence. The image, technically, is not the best ever seen, but under the given light and 1/20 handheld, this old lens's technology is still acceptable, I think. The last image was taken at ISO 11400, Z7 body. Full info at Flickr, if someone is interesting in it. THX!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: John Geerts on September 08, 2019, 08:47:04
Pretty Nice, LZ.   You like the lens on the Z7 ?  The AF works well in combination with the FTZ? 

I was thinking to acquire this lens for my Nikon Z6,  probably the latest versions of this lens are the best?
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on September 08, 2019, 09:25:07
Pretty Nice, LZ.   You like the lens on the Z7 ?  The AF works well in combination with the FTZ? 

I was thinking to acquire this lens for my Nikon Z6,  probably the latest versions of this lens are the best?
    Thanks, John! For family/travel, and, rarely, for something else, I like it very much, in combination with my old  Tok 17. While the 28-300 lens is not fully up to amazing Z7's sensor, it is still more than acceptable at f8 - 11, as you can see. With FTZ works perfectly, not even smallest difference to my former D800-850 bodies, outside. Inside, under poor light, a little bit slower - very little bit! Unfortunately, I am looking for lighter combos, that's why all of my heavy bodies are gone, and this one is directly for me. If you on market for this lens, get it from big store, it is warranty you get the very last version, or, even better, directly from Nikon store. Or, wait for already promised new 28-280 Nikkor, but who knows... Good luck, anyway!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Fons Baerken on September 08, 2019, 10:39:06
The barrel distortion on the wide end is humongous ;)
Yet a great walkaround lens, as LZ has been showing,
Lens has got a lock preventing it from sagging down,

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48694601293_ed332c700c_o.jpg)

D850, 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6vr @28mm f/5.6
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: John Geerts on September 08, 2019, 10:54:52
Thanks LZ and Fons.  Looks like the Back-up-Lens-For-All-Tasks, I am looking for ;)   And also useable on the F and Z mouth.   
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Alaun on September 08, 2019, 12:24:31
It is also a very nice lens for IR.

Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on September 08, 2019, 15:46:46
Very nicely and interesting done, Alaun! So what is it: modified sensor, filter, software, or combination? THX!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on September 08, 2019, 15:48:59
Correct, Fons, and you show it perfectly! THX! LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on November 28, 2019, 05:27:25
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Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: mxbianco on December 02, 2019, 02:36:42
    Thanks, John! For family/travel, and, rarely, for something else, I like it very much, in combination with my old  Tok 17. While the 28-300 lens is not fully up to amazing Z7's sensor, it is still more than acceptable at f8 - 11, as you can see. With FTZ works perfectly, not even smallest difference to my former D800-850 bodies, outside. Inside, under poor light, a little bit slower - very little bit! Unfortunately, I am looking for lighter combos, that's why all of my heavy bodies are gone, and this one is directly for me. If you on market for this lens, get it from big store, it is warranty you get the very last version, or, even better, directly from Nikon store. Or, wait for already promised new 28-280 Nikkor, but who knows... Good luck, anyway!  LZ

AFAIK, there is only one version of the 28-300 zoom. From day zero, it was with the VRII (indicated by the yellow VR lettering), same optical scheme, same coating...

Roland Vink mentions 2 versions, but they differ only in the numbering: one for the USA (56xxxxxx) and one for the rest of the world (52xxxxxx)

It is the 18-200 DX that has two versions: the first version (discontinued) had VR-I (red VR letters) and no zoom-creep block switch, second version (current) has VRII (Yellow VR) and zoom-creep block switch.

What do you mean by "very last version" ? Am I missing something ?

Ciao from Massimo
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: Roland Vink on December 02, 2019, 02:48:18
You are right, there is only one version of the 28-300 (there are two versions of the DX 18-300 lens - f/5.6 and f/6.3)
I think "late version" means a new or late production lens, not an older used lens...
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: mxbianco on December 02, 2019, 02:56:44
You are right, there is only one version of the 28-300 (there are two versions of the DX 18-300 lens - f/5.6 and f/6.3)
I think "late version" means a new or late production lens, not an older used lens...
I have a 28-300, and I've had the first version of the 18-200 (sold).

The 28-300 is the lens I use when I want to travel light. One body, one lens, pretty decent results, not a lightning for AF (of course, at 300mm it's only 5.6 max aperture...)

Ciao from Massimo
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on December 02, 2019, 04:31:28
You are right, there is only one version of the 28-300 (there are two versions of the DX 18-300 lens - f/5.6 and f/6.3)
I think "late version" means a new or late production lens, not an older used lens...
There is a tiny difference between the very last version of this lens and copies which were made 7 years ago. Some changes were done to the boards, oils used, and so on. As a result, last copies are a bit faster to AF, more stable to a repeating sequence, with somewhat better weather-proof.  So, there is a usual, everyday evolution of this particular optics-mechanics device. So nothing special was done, and, as it was before, your copy is relying on your luck. That's is why I am saying and repeating - big store always has way better exchange policy.  LZ    (BTW, my copy was made 6 years ago, but optics were assembled perfectly, that's why I am keeping it.)
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on December 06, 2019, 08:43:30
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49128773447_547e557bf3_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hRkNJ4)2019-10-23_18-4 (https://flic.kr/p/2hRkNJ4) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr.    Z7, the lens at 65mm, f11.0, ISO 12.800.  This pic is a 100% crop.
   (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49176613371_e00fc6b19a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hVyZSk)2019-10-23_18-2-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2hVyZSk) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr    I am not able to post full frame image, but this one only, what is a cut about half frame. Even if you know why I've acted like this, I am sorry! Full info on Flickr.  THX!  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
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Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on January 25, 2020, 21:01:02
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Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on January 25, 2020, 21:04:30
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49440437336_cad8020d77_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ijTaxo)2020-01-24_1-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2ijTaxo) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49440436091_4b57bdfe9f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ijTaaV)2020-01-24_1-2-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2ijTaaV) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickr.   The Z7, the lens at 300mm, F11.0, crop.  LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on August 25, 2020, 16:49:15
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50267700567_3dbe4a1ef3_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jzZ75x)2020-08-18 010 (https://flic.kr/p/2jzZ75x) by (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50266859343_c7ad3c160f_h.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/[url=https://flic.kr/p/2jzUN1F)2020-08-18 010-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2jzUN1F) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/), on Flickrphotos/longzoom/]longzoom[/url], on Flickr.  The Z7. At 300MM, F8.0, iso 1600. Crop. THX!   LZ
Title: Re: On 28-300/D810 combo.
Post by: longzoom on August 25, 2020, 17:13:57
        (https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50296075986_30de69bd3b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jCux6U)2020-08-18 010-3-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2jCux6U) by longzoom (https://www.flickr.com/photos/longzoom/)     Huge crop. I will stay with this one.  LZ