NikonGear'23
Images => Themes, Portfolio Series, PaW, or PaM => Topic started by: pluton on September 04, 2016, 08:01:01
-
Do you have scenes of naturally occurring visual chaos?
I find it difficult to communicate naturally occurring disorder and visual chaos through the orderly medium of the sharply framed photo. Here is my latest attempt: The plant life of our local coastal sage plant community in late summer. The larger shrubs and trees can stay green, but most of the smaller ones have by now 'checked out', until it rains again. Shot just before sundown, corrected blue skylight back towards neutral color. Wide 14mm on APSC camera.
-
Super Keith!
-
We all instictivly try to categorise an apparent chaos. I think you have tried the same with the composition of your picture. The grass turf with the stick as some kind of focal point. The grey and dry sage as leading lines and the repetition of nuances and colors. So I think your composition is an good example of how we try to create order out of chaos :)
-
There still is a certain degree of order in this photo, because, as you said, I picked and framed a particular area of the piece of nature at hand. But this is my closest attempt
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/6/5634/23297934791_47780ebefd_b.jpg)
-
That's a tough one. Interesting proposition. Nothing to show yet
-
I posted this shot in the "Stange walls" theme yesterday but before I did I looked for a theme like this one.. :)
Great shots Keith and Buddy.
-
We all instictivly try to categorise an apparent chaos. I think you have tried the same with the composition of your picture. The grass turf with the stick as some kind of focal point. The grey and dry sage as leading lines and the repetition of nuances and colors. So I think your composition is an good example of how we try to create order out of chaos :)
I cannot dispute your observations! We do bring order by framing it.
-
Buddy, your shot definitely contains visual chaos. The light spot adds mystery.
Lars, that rock (or mudstone?) has cracking, shearing, dripping , and wind or water created cavities. I'd say that's fairly chaotic.
Mike, glad you liked it.
-
Chaos on line.
-
Lars, that rock (or mudstone?) has cracking, shearing, dripping , and wind or water created cavities. I'd say that's fairly chaotic.
Thanks Keith - it is a moraine cliff running along a coastline. Mostly clay, sand, gravel, stones etc. I switched the shot btw.- first one was the wrong version.
-
I find this very hard. When looking for it, disorder disappears. It becomes just a higher level or more complicated order. More of a mystery than a chaos.
I haven´t succeed but I wanted to share something from today. Will keep doing as I find it fascinating
-
Paco, Bjorn has found disorder along a line, you have found it in the center.
-
Great images.
The thema is perhaps difficult to comprehend for me, as nature is quit orderly in my view. And of course, one tries to get always some order, as Børge mentions.
But perhaps some disorder in lighting and focus? Is it Chaos?
-
Not sure whether this one fits this theme. Hope so.
-
Where did you take this picture, Hans?
-
Spectacular images, all of you!
-
Where did you take this picture, Hans?
I took it in Norway, quite some time ago (still with the D2h). Don't know exactly where, just that the weather wasn't ... let's say ... nice.
Perhaps one of the Noggies recognizes the area (if that's at all possible).
-
Great images.
The thema is perhaps difficult to comprehend for me, as nature is quit orderly in my view. And of course, one tries to get always some order, as Børge mentions.
But perhaps some disorder in lighting and focus? Is it Chaos?
Contains visual disorder is as good as being filled with visual disorder.
I don't necessarily think of nature as always being orderly, but I do personally feel more comfortable when I'm in most natural places as compared to many, many man-made environments. Some people have the exact opposite feelings about places.
-
I took it in Norway, quite some time ago (still with the D2h). Don't know exactly where, just that the weather wasn't ... let's say ... nice.
Perhaps one of the Noggies recognizes the area (if that's at all possible).
Weather looks nice enough, ie. normal ....
My guess would be somewhere on the central mountain range of southern Norway (Hardangervidda?), but really there are very few clues to work with as the vegetation is pretty ubiquitous for the country and the landscape topology could be almost anywhere, even up North. Does not look to be on the western coast though, and likely not the eastern parts of the mountain range either.
Hans, you need to give us a little more detail as to your trip through the country.
-
Hans, you need to give us a little more detail as to your trip through the country.
I would certainly like to do that Bjørn, but i've checked and double checked my records (my wife) and can't find any more clues. This is unfortunate, as i'd like to remember where this is myself (to look it up on google maps). I do know there was a small town where there was this dirt road that lead to a small lake and i believe at that time (middle of august) there was a music festival going. From memory it was called something like concert at 1000 meters, but i cannot find any mention of that anywhere (which means google doesn't know it).
Very nice place, if not a bit desolate and the weather didn't cooperate. I have some pictures of a little house on the lake, i'll post that as well, perhaps that rings any bells.
-
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8892/29559654705_7bf6ac7d0b_o.jpg)
D3 35/1.4g
-
Love it Fons, from first impact. Spend some time going around the many lines that sims to appear and disappear. Nice play with contrast in color, it pops like colorful lines of lights in the tarmac, they beg to be followed.
-
Fonses picture show IMO how well the use of compatible colors compensate for the lack of other compositional instruments. The colors bring harmony to the picture.
-
Fons, I agree with what Børge and Paco have said.
The image is simply beautiful. However I can see a great deal of natural order here, in spite of the topic title, aided by your management of DOF and the placement of the in focus/out of focus elements.
-
Thank you Paco, Børge, Hugh.
Natural disorder/chaos is a human concept after all ;)
-
I think you hit the nail there. It is all about human perspective. I´m working from that point of view right now.
-
Victim of a stormy weather.
Added a color version
-
More natural disorder please ... :)
-
[img...]
D3 35/1.4g
That's one. Wow!
Do you have scenes of naturally occurring visual chaos?
And that's true for the initial post as well. Like it a lot! A quite attractive theme this is.
-
Out of order, at least
-
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Garden-and-Landscape/High-Dunes-Trail-December-2016/i-S3QXBL2/0/X2/D5C_1606-X2.jpg) (https://billm7.smugmug.com/Garden-and-Landscape/High-Dunes-Trail-December-2016/i-S3QXBL2/A) :) :)
-
Keith, excellent idea for a thread and a wonderful image.
I took the photo below while on my Yosemite trip last fall. It's the root wad from a fallen tree and contains an interesting interplay of order and disorder. This scene fascinated me but I was never able to make it into a coherent image.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/274/31570239554_96dacb0c4b_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q6KJk5)Root Wad #2, Smoky Jack (https://flic.kr/p/Q6KJk5) by Bill de Jager (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99349448@N06/), on Flickr
-
Urban orders inducing chaos in nature.
-
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Garden-and-Landscape/High-Dunes-Trail-December-2016/i-S3QXBL2/0/X2/D5C_1606-X2.jpg) (https://billm7.smugmug.com/Garden-and-Landscape/High-Dunes-Trail-December-2016/i-S3QXBL2/A) :) :)
That is a beauty. Reminds me of the Vista on the 17 Mile drive near Monterrey!
-
Do you have scenes of naturally occurring visual chaos?
I find it difficult to communicate naturally occurring disorder and visual chaos through the orderly medium of the sharply framed photo. Here is my latest attempt: The plant life of our local coastal sage plant community in late summer. The larger shrubs and trees can stay green, but most of the smaller ones have by now 'checked out', until it rains again. Shot just before sundown, corrected blue skylight back towards neutral color. Wide 14mm on APSC camera.
Great composition. I can only subscribe to that point raised above!
-
That is a beauty. Reminds me of the Vista on the 17 Mile drive near Monterrey!
Thank you Frank!
We are planning on a trip to Monterrey in the spring to see my Sister who lives 2 hours south of there. It is one of my favorite places.
This one was taken on a small hiking trail in a state park that is near our house on the east coast of the US. It is approximately a 5K walk from our doorstep.
-
Do you have scenes of naturally occurring visual chaos?
I find it difficult to communicate naturally occurring disorder and visual chaos through the orderly medium of the sharply framed photo. Here is my latest attempt: The plant life of our local coastal sage plant community in late summer. The larger shrubs and trees can stay green, but most of the smaller ones have by now 'checked out', until it rains again. Shot just before sundown, corrected blue skylight back towards neutral color. Wide 14mm on APSC camera.
Thank you for starting this thread Pluton.
Many great images here and I hope to see many more!
-
Lovely contributions Bill M. and Bill D. Akira has put it in a social context, as Bjørn R. did earlier.
-
Keith, thanks for your comment and more than that, for starting this inspiring thread!
-
Today I took a rare walk with my wife on a Saturday (she normally has to work every Saturday) and managed to not only take my "picture a day keeps the doctor away", but also two pictures for Keith's genious thread. The second are birch trees, the first is a kind of Mimosa I guess:
-
I don't know if this is disorder or merely picturesque entropy.
-
Volcanic ash pebbles. No discernible pattern.
-
A transgression moraine, with neolithic burial mounds adorning it.
-
Untangle this:
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4035/4382923651_bfb9358ac4_o_d.jpg)
-
Not the forest of my dreams to navigate, or a violation of the N-3/2 rule.
-
Disorder in my neighborhood...
-
Cosmic voids...
-
Akira, nice perspective on the bare tree.
-
Thanks, Jack!
-
Old abandoned road covered with sand, rocks, and debris, former Smoky Jack campground, Yosemite National Park.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/673/32373407971_dc5e4a7d21_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RjJbjp)Old Road (https://flic.kr/p/RjJbjp) by Bill de Jager (https://www.flickr.com/photos/99349448@N06/), on Flickr
-
Akira, I like the second one more. The even distribution of the picture elements is more pleasing to the eye/mind in this case.
I wonder if "Random Distribution" might have been a better thread title?
-
Keith, thanks for the kind comment. Indeed I tried to trim the frame for the even distribution of the twigs.
I wonder if "Random Distribution" might have been a better thread title?
I don't think you need to change the current original title which is more open to different interpretations and inspirations.
-
A random distribution is also chaotic in the sense there is little or no spatial or temporal autocorrelation. Perhaps only smaller particles (such as those giving a Brownian movement) are truly chaotic, however that is pretty academic and of small relevance to photographic studies of patterns in nature.
From yesterday's trip inland to a drier and colder regime than we have had here near the Oslo Fjord so far this winter.
I did a series of test images of this scene, which comprises riperian forest (mainly alders and downy birch) responding to a recent snowfall. The weaker trunks will bend over so avoid breaking under the often heavy load. This was a perfect scene for assessment of chromatic aberration of older lenses. I tested such familiar Nikkors as the 400 mm f/5.6, 35-70 mm f/3.5, 20/3.5, and the old-timer 50-300 mm f/4.5 ED. This depiction of riparian chaos is taken with the latter lens on a Nikon Df, and apparently this 40+ year old lens (1977) still knows how to bend light rays :D
-
From a decaying tree.
-
Great one, Lars.
-
Superb Lars and Bjørn. I've always wanted one of the ED 50-300's.
Here's a very lucky 1/30th second 21mm shot that's not blurred (much) from camera shake.
The Laurel Sumac shrub almost died off from our drought, but seems to be coming back as a result of our 'more like normal' winter rainfall season.
-
Cosmic voids...
Akira - I really like the shots (especially #2), the natural disorder it conveys and your cosmic analogy fits nicely :)
For some reason your shot gave flashbacks to my early days as a computer programmer when I was playing with fractals .. it was quite fascinating.
-
Superb Lars and Bjørn.
The Laurel Sumac shrub almost died off from our drought, but seems to be coming back as a result of our 'more like normal' winter rainfall season.
Thanks Keith!
Your Sumac is definitely natural disorder! - it almost express "enter at own risk". Is it a poisonous species?
-
Great one, Lars.
Thanks Bruno!
-
If you find my last one interesting then these might also fit the theme.
-
A random distribution is also chaotic in the sense there is little or no spatial or temporal autocorrelation. Perhaps only smaller particles (such as those giving a Brownian movement) are truly chaotic, however that is pretty academic and of small relevance to photographic studies of patterns in nature.
From yesterday's trip inland to a drier and colder regime than we have had here near the Oslo Fjord so far this winter.
I did a series of test images of this scene, which comprises riperian forest (mainly alders and downy birch) responding to a recent snowfall. The weaker trunks will bend over so avoid breaking under the often heavy load. This was a perfect scene for assessment of chromatic aberration of older lenses. I tested such familiar Nikkors as the 400 mm f/5.6, 35-70 mm f/3.5, 20/3.5, and the old-timer 50-300 mm f/4.5 ED. This depiction of riparian chaos is taken with the latter lens on a Nikon Df, and apparently this 40+ year old lens (1977) still knows how to bend light rays :D
This image is simply amazing.
-
Thanks Keith!
Your Sumac is definitely natural disorder! - it almost express "enter at own risk". Is it a poisonous species?
Not toxic. Apparently the native Americans used parts of it for remedies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malosma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malosma)
-
Akira - I really like the shots (especially #2), the natural disorder it conveys and your cosmic analogy fits nicely :)
For some reason your shot gave flashbacks to my early days as a computer programmer when I was playing with fractals .. it was quite fascinating.
Lars, thanks for the comment. Glad to know someone sharing the same sensitivity. :)
-
Chaos in a jar
-
It looks almost like its going fractal, but no.
Resizing this image really kills the patterns!
It is better viewed by right-click, view image, +enlarge, but even viewing enlarged there is some loss from the resize to 2000px width. (Hmmm, that's interesting. Some images we cannot properly present online.)
Bjørn, you will perhaps remember this?
-
Andrea - that is a fantastic image, one that I wish I had taken. I really like how you treated the sides and lower edge to match. Really beautiful.
-
It looks almost like its going fractal, but no.
...
Bjørn, you will perhaps remember this?
Yes, looks like Hoover Dam, probably on the Nevada side.
-
My natural disorder looks something like this :)
-
Andrea,
That is a very deep look at a surface. What a treat, beautiful!
Sam
-
Andrea, that is beautiful and fascinating. The presentation is inventive also. Something to 'torture' a JPEG converter!
-
It looks almost like its going fractal, but no.
Very fascinating patterns Andrea! .. looks fine at my monitor.
-
#1 Getting a better grip at a slope.
#2 Alternative grip :-\
-
1 - acanthous
-
Chip: I want more roots. Is the sweet potato still growing??
Lars: Fantasy roots. The walking trees!
Thomas: Lovely clutter.
-
It is only natural that man causes chaos
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/671/32654166631_c37304d3f1_b_d.jpg)
-
It is only natural that man causes chaos
I don't know what it is or was, but it is human-generated, and I like it.
-
Intertwined.
-
Bird Phoenix in a winter forest.
D500, AFS 105/1.4E Nikkor
-
Natures disorder in icicles.
Replaced first version.
-
Slightly inspired by Bjørn's winter forest.
-
The Joshua Tree seems to change it's mind about which way to grow, leading to a somewhat disorganized appearance.
-
The Joshua Tree seems to change it's mind about which way to grow, leading to a somewhat disorganized appearance.
I really like the tight framing, Pluton.
-
Parched meadow.
-
No disorder for more than 5 years ???
Dark disorder unearthed by a storm.
-
No disorder for more than 5 years ??? ...
Thanks Lars from bringing this thread back from oblivion :D
Some order here, but i couldn't find it :o
-
Thanks Lars from bringing this thread back from oblivion :D
Some order here, but i couldn't find it :o
Thanks Hans :-) .. nice disorder. It's time for another bump on this interesting subject!
-
Bird Phoenix in a winter forest.
D500, AFS 105/1.4E Nikkor
I love the PP in this Birna
-
Littoral zone chaos.
-
Littoral zone chaos.
Oh, I love this chaos. Well framed!
-
Littoral zone chaos.
Nice one, Hans! I find it difficult to find good chaos that isn't plant life, but you have done it!
-
Oh, I love this chaos. Well framed!
Thank you Akira :)
-
Nice one, Hans! I find it difficult to find good chaos that isn't plant life, but you have done it!
Thank you Keith. I have trouble finding chaos in any plant life, it's all composed of well aligned fibres and takes a form to meet the plant's need for light, water and nutrient ;D ;D Rocks at the base of a cliff however can be plenty chaotic :o
-
110M years old fossilised flooding chaos. Lots of big fossil plates on the next beach, Opal Coast, France.
D500 35/1.8 DX