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Travelogues => Travel Diaries => Topic started by: MFloyd on August 23, 2016, 18:28:59

Title: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 23, 2016, 18:28:59
The Geneva Lake hosts approximately 100 old sailing rigs which are cherished by their owners; a fair percentage are over 100 years now. Despite that these "wind cathedrals" are relatively fragile, expensive and time consuming to maintain; around 30 of these go out every fortnight for a race.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8204/29061163762_8a49f889ae_k.jpg)
1 - Calypso - 3 tonner class (Godinet rating) - 1911 - owner: Musée de la Marine (Paris)
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: elsa hoffmann on August 23, 2016, 18:30:22
Interesting indeed - and cool photo!
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 23, 2016, 18:47:43
Thank you Elsa  :)

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8488/29142665116_471b012b44_k.jpg)
2 - Calypso

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8823/28556842553_9df758e185_k.jpg)
3 - Calypso

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7577/28888560390_4d942d7430_k.jpg)
4 - Calypso

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8336/29142616206_d39b4c34c4_k.jpg)
Calypso - 5

All pictures taken with Nikon D5 and Nikkor 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6
"Old Rig Challenge" organized by La Licorne (Nernier - 74 France) - August 20-21, 2016
There a few pictures dating from 2014: same lens but D4s body.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Peter Connan on August 23, 2016, 19:02:33
Beautiful photos of beautiful boats!
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 23, 2016, 19:32:12
Thank you Peter  :)

Here another one: Phoebus, also a 3 tonner (Godinet rating) launched in 1903 i.e. a 113 year "young" lady. This one belongs to the Musée du Léman in Nyon (CH):

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7507/28556639503_6805b57e3e_k.jpg)
6 - Phoebus

These boats are very labor intensive and need big (and athletic) crews:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8503/28885502670_ca54b8c816_k.jpg)
7 - Phoebus

From time to time, you have to rely more on gravity rather than muscle...
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8362/29176022485_af8d698d18_k.jpg)
8 - Phoebus
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 23, 2016, 23:58:12
the guy in #3 looks like Robert de Niro!
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 24, 2016, 00:02:22
the guy in #3 looks like Robert de Niro!

I will tell him when I meet him next time  :D Thank you for visiting my thread  :)
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 24, 2016, 00:06:12
I visit any of your threads but I do not always understand your pictures. If confused I do not write "I am confused" but refrain from writing.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 24, 2016, 00:53:43
Hello Frank, what do you mean by "I do not always understand your pictures" ?  :) If you have a question, please ask.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Thomas Stellwag on August 24, 2016, 11:33:03
great pictures showing these jewels in work
and as well of relaxed crews enjoying it
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 24, 2016, 13:25:20
Hello Frank, what do you mean by "I do not always understand your pictures" ?  :) If you have a question, please ask.

I mean I cannot connect to them, relate to them, which is not a rational reaction, but an emotional one. A reaction that cannot be resolved by q&a.

E.g. cars are not my friends but more of an annoyance to my existence, sometimes a necessity to use, because the world is constructed in such a way (which I disregard and are actively working to change).

So: If a car photo wants to receive a comment from me it has to be absolutely smashing phantastic extraordinary (same goes for naked people in photos or fashion). And I am spoiled completely because one of my best friends is a high ranking graphics professional at Ford. So I see the footage of really expensive international car shooters all the time (although I would prefer not to, but he is my friend and likes to show me his work).

Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: armando_m on August 24, 2016, 16:48:17
Awesome boats, really nice shots

I mean I cannot connect to them, relate to them, which is not a rational reaction, but an emotional one. A reaction that cannot be resolved by q&a.

E.g. cars are not my friends but more of an annoyance to my existence, sometimes a necessity to use, because the world is constructed in such a way (which I disregard and are actively working to change).

So: If a car photo wants to receive a comment from me it has to be absolutely smashing phantastic extraordinary (same goes for naked people in photos or fashion). And I am spoiled completely because one of my best friends is a high ranking graphics professional at Ford. So I see the footage of really expensive international car shooters all the time (although I would prefer not to, but he is my friend and likes to show me his work).
Frank, now I'm confused ... what do cars have to do with boats ?
Have you been on a sailing boat ? I have only twice in my life and found it quite enjoyable, to be moved by the wind, no engines
an exhilarating feeling, to be on a fragile structure, that leans sometimes heavily towards the water surface, to see it and feel it ride the wave

but that is me, I like transportation in general, from roller skates, bikes, cars, trains, airplanes, and boats :)
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 24, 2016, 17:38:43
And here with Calliope, another 2 tonner (Godinet rating), 1907 vintage, build by the Italian shipyard Costaguta:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7759/29089406151_99b12bd64a_k.jpg)
9 - Calliope

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8896/29061701072_90ecfcfa9c_k.jpg)
10 - Calliope

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3910/14505937020_7d7fca4056_k.jpg)
11 - Calliope
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 24, 2016, 18:00:21
Thomas & Armando, thank you for visiting.

@Frank: First, I come here to admire and share pictures, photo technique, try to learn from the experience from other, etc.; to make it short, to enjoy.  We have all our views; and from time to time, there are subjects, pictures I don't like: in these cases, I simply pass my way.  I find that this forum is not too much the place where a person has to give his philosophical views.  More than once, you shared your vision about cars - inter alia; I think we all got the message (at least I have). Let's enjoy what we have and share in common: photography.  For the rest...  This said, I like most of your pictures.  ;)
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Erik Lund on August 24, 2016, 18:37:38
Beautiful captures of beautiful boats! Nice bright pastel colors.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 24, 2016, 19:03:00
Awesome boats, really nice shots
Frank, now I'm confused ... what do cars have to do with boats ?
Have you been on a sailing boat ? I have only twice in my life and found it quite enjoyable, to be moved by the wind, no engines
an exhilarating feeling, to be on a fragile structure, that leans sometimes heavily towards the water surface, to see it and feel it ride the wave

but that is me, I like transportation in general, from roller skates, bikes, cars, trains, airplanes, and boats :)

I love many of these boat shots.
The quoted text concerned MFloyds more general question.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Frank Fremerey on August 24, 2016, 19:06:44
Esp I like the sets in #4 and #12.

The interaction in the group shots appeals to me and the pictures
that show the whole boat in relation to water and landscape as
opposed to the shots in which people are shown from behind or
the boat is shown pars pro toto to create a sense of motion.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Jacques Pochoy on August 24, 2016, 19:11:17
I do like those pictures of those rare old rigs from the "Léman" ! There is also a race with more modern sailing ships, quite peculiar in design, because of the special winds one can get on such a lake... :-)
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 24, 2016, 22:35:42
I do like those pictures of those rare old rigs from the "Léman" ! There is also a race with more modern sailing ships, quite peculiar in design, because of the special winds one can get on such a lake... :-)

As Jacques mentions, we have also a lot of high tech sailing around.  With the EPFL (Federal Polytechnical Institute of Lausanne) and a lot of spin-offs on the shores of the lake ...

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5600/18664706940_6e8c8a8747_k.jpg)
11 - Ventilo M2 One Design http://www.ventilo.ch/en/catamaran-m2.html (courtesy Stephan Adamczyk)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/493/18173711284_cface1ca1a_k.jpg)
12 - D35 - M1 class - Decision 35
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Mongo on August 25, 2016, 11:19:04
Mongo loves the old boats - and there are some classic boats in that lot. You have also presented a great story set to some great images. Thank you
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 25, 2016, 14:21:07
Thank you Mongo.  Very kind.  Some other might follow.  😊
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 26, 2016, 03:00:54
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8780/28547943353_1ea02d8e00_k.jpg)
It was a windy and rainy day for this 6mJI

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8574/28879613800_c497c407d0_k.jpg)
Crew enjoyment

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8194/29167379105_cc0d0edfe0_k.jpg)
Perfection of shape

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8533/29089433391_fc5b9dd29e_k.jpg)
Blending into it's liquid environment


Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on July 17, 2017, 23:02:23
Yachting season on the Geneva Lake. Competition was tough, last Sunday, around the marking buoy ....
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Ethan on July 18, 2017, 18:17:07
I mean I cannot connect to them, relate to them, which is not a rational reaction, but an emotional one. A reaction that cannot be resolved by q&a.

E.g. cars are not my friends but more of an annoyance to my existence, sometimes a necessity to use, because the world is constructed in such a way (which I disregard and are actively working to change).

So: If a car photo wants to receive a comment from me it has to be absolutely smashing phantastic extraordinary (same goes for naked people in photos or fashion). And I am spoiled completely because one of my best friends is a high ranking graphics professional at Ford. So I see the footage of really expensive international car shooters all the time (although I would prefer not to, but he is my friend and likes to show me his work).

Is this Frank guy serious? He does not understand other people pictures whilst nobody understand his blurb and nobody is asking his advise or want to read his advise.
Yo man, do you think anybody is interested in reading your blubbering?
Did you self appoint yourself as master commentator?
Are you serious or on some kind of therapy? Strongly suggest you take a reality check and stop festering this forum.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Ethan on July 18, 2017, 18:21:08
Great series and loads of beautiful rigs.
Shot number 11 is particularly attractive.

Which gear were you using?
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: CS on July 18, 2017, 18:47:11
Wonderful series of boat shots. Too bad Frank wants to inject his politics into it.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on July 18, 2017, 19:49:58
Thank you guys. Too kind. Picture #11 belongs to a friend, Stephan Adamczyk (I wish it was mine). I believe he used his D4s with the 70-200mm f/2.8 and a TC. Personally, I'm nearly always using my Nikkor 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6 because I need both wide angle and telelens, without having to change lenses (water spray). Bodies might change: D5, D4s, or D610.  In most cases these type of pictures are not so demanding in terms of AF, so the D610 might largely suffice.

Some more to follow 😉
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on July 20, 2017, 23:30:44
And these to end:

Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: CS on July 20, 2017, 23:39:31
Great shots, Christian, you bring the action right to me!
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Jakov Minić on July 21, 2017, 00:17:38
Christian, these are beautiful images of beautiful sailing boats!
Of course my favorite boat of all these is Calliope, which I would like to call a "bath-tub" :)
I am sorry I haven't seen this thread before. I have thoroughly enjoyed these images full of emotions, skills, and dedications clearly visible in all the sailors.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on July 21, 2017, 01:25:42
Hello Carl and Jakov. I'm pleased that you enjoy 😊 Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 08, 2018, 16:13:19
This WE there was a gathering of old rigs at Sciez (F) a village on the border of the Geneva Lake. Little wind, but beautiful light and boats:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/848/43877238442_d50c27256d_b.jpg)

Nikon D5
Nikkor 70.0-200.0 mm f/2.8E FL
ƒ/5.6  200.0 mm 1/1000s ISO 110

HR Prodibi image: https://mfloyd.prodibi.com/a/2x9y7yxg9w89r8/i/1xd9jr707lz1lm

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1813/42118054640_5a72b2944a_b.jpg)

HR Prodibi image: https://mfloyd.prodibi.com/a/2x9y7yxg9w89r8/i/dymvx74e4emeoo
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: armando_m on August 08, 2018, 16:26:02
the image looks gorgeous on your website
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 08, 2018, 16:48:33
the image looks gorgeous on your website

Thank you Armando, but Prodibi is an image service provider which allows to present HR images in a secure way. Prodibi offered their services to NG i.e. embedding the macro into the forum. But unanswered until now.

Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 17, 2018, 20:08:32
Some additional ones:

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1778/28990189337_932d611dda_b.jpg)

HR image: https://mfloyd.prodibi.com/a/2x9y7yxg9w89r8/i/4q8o2zvm5908jk

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1796/43878172622_0fb55c4e06_b.jpg)

HR image: https://mfloyd.prodibi.com/a/2x9y7yxg9w89r8/i/1xd7q6z12o0dyk
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Jakov Minić on August 17, 2018, 23:37:30
Special, minimalist like sailing boats.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Nasos Kosmas on August 18, 2018, 08:30:41
Nice pictures especially the Geneva lake and yes it’s  better looking  in prodibi site, thank you
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 18, 2018, 09:16:05
Thank you Jakoy and Nasos for appreciating my pictures.

Jacov, you might maybe give attention to the following post, as Prodibi proposes to embed directly the Prodibi pictures in NG (instead of having to put a link). Indeed, the biggest French forum, Chasseur d’Images, is providing this service. And it’s great to have full resolution pictures for a site dedicated to photography  ;)

http://nikongear.net/revival/index.php/topic,7415.msg120229.html#msg120229
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on August 18, 2018, 11:40:58
We will normally refrain from adding special modules to the SMF software which runs NG. There is a question to the Crew of having a low maintenance system.

As the admins will join for the upcoming PhotoKina fair in Cologne, we can discuss the matter there.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: MFloyd on August 18, 2018, 14:56:28
Thank you Bjørn. Not sure I will attend Fotokina. And I agree that fora should be run as light as possible. I don’t know the guys who are running Prodibi. But they are close, based in Geneva. Always volunteering to liaise or making a due diligence.
Title: Re: Sailing rigs on the Geneva Lake
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on August 18, 2018, 15:42:08
Thanks.

We will be at PhotoKina on the 28th (Friday) hopefully to avoid the throng on closing day, Saturday. Do contact any of the admins if you, or any other NG member, plan to visit PK that day. It would be nice to have an improvised meet-up there, as has happened before.