NikonGear'23
Images => Life, the Universe & Everything Else => Topic started by: Frank Fremerey on August 22, 2016, 09:33:22
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I like the way he uses the natural light & backdrops especially.
http://www.omarrobles.com/
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Well, they are "amazingly" badly composited.
These pictures of Ballet dancers in Cuba are Composites and not shot in natural light nor in the street.
I checked few images. The Lighting does not match, the Perspective is wrong, add to that the FG/BG transition sucks.
Here are a couple of pics for the eye to see that these are cut out composites.....I did not even needed to run an ELA on them.
The obvious tell-tale sign is the Jpeg compression on the cut out line:
1- Dancer and Dog
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Duke_1/9036025_glorious-photos-of-cuban-ballet-dancers_t8254b5d8_zps5hril5rk.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Duke_1/Male-Dancer_zpsib46vbnw.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Duke_1/Dog_zpsr2jczbqp.jpg)
2- Dancer and Old Woman
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Duke_1/Dancer-and-Old-Woman-1_zpsmotvugde.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Duke_1/Dancer-and-Old-Woman-2_zpsjb5ip07l.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Duke_1/Dancer-and-Old-Woman-3_zpsimcvtrok.jpg)
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I like the dog's dancing. :)
Also the young lady offering a foot to the old lady.
What's the location? I notice an old Plymouth in one of the photos.
Dave
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Mongo was going to say that this whole idea of images is a very cool one. Well, the idea is still probably very cool. However, the reality of the images (as uncovered by Almass) very much sours the images themselves to something less than authentic.
It strikes Mongo as exceedingly strange that someone could have an idea as interesting and challengingly satisfying as this and yet, not go out and do it for real in the streets. Surely, the effort to carry the idea out authentically would not have been beyond doing ............and that would have been the real fun, challenge and achievement of it.
A waste of a very good idea.
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As far as I understand these were taken on location.
There are lots of making of videos. See link below.
The compression artifacts "uncovered" by our friend in London are just that: Compression artifacts.
(Add and delete ad hominem attacks and responses here in your mind if you want)
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https://www.google.de/search?q=omar+z+robles+making+of+video&num=100&safe=images&client=ms-android-samsung&hl=de-DE&prmd=vimn&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVxp308NTOAhUJtBQKHQU1BdoQ_AUIBygB&biw=640&bih=335
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https://www.google.de/search?q=omar+z+robles+making+of+video&num=100&safe=images&client=ms-android-samsung&hl=de-DE&prmd=vimn&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiVxp308NTOAhUJtBQKHQU1BdoQ_AUIBygB&biw=640&bih=335
The CUBA Ballet shots are Composites.
1- Jepg artifacts appear all over a compressed image. They DO NOT appear on cut outs selectively.
Maybe you need to research your knowledge on Jpeg. For your information and for a moment if we forget about the obvious artifacts, there is something calle Jpeg packets which should be the same number uniformity all over the image......They are not....Full Stop.
I can point it out for you but cannot make you see what you do not want to see.
2- I was very clear that I was specifically referring to the Cuba shots. I did check your Yutube link and I cannot find one single video showing the Cuba shots in motion. I found stills of the Cuba shots in some videos but no "making of" or any material showing that these shots are not composites.
There are videos of NewYork where the dancers are moving albeit these cannot be referenced in any stills he is showing.
So you have videos of dancers in movement and videos with Stilsl of dancers but I could not find any material showing the Stills in motion.
I will be grateful if you can direct us or link specifically which video shows the Cuba shots "making of" as you state.
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I like Omar's images, and I do follow his work
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I like the way he uses the natural light & backdrops especially.
http://www.omarrobles.com/
I am not much of a ballet guy, but I really like his work. Very impressive!
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The effect of placing the high culture of the ballet into the most prosaic locations is a pleasing one. A relief from 'all-grime' and 'all-beauty.' The old (but well-made) American musical film 'West Side Story" also used this effect in it's dance sequences.
EDIT: The only argument I could make that they might be fake is that my older Fuijfilm camera, the XE-1, has too much shutter lag to have timed these shots. Fuji must have shortened the delay in later models that the photographer says were used.
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I did not even needed to run an ELA on them.
What is an ELA?
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Error Level Analysis ---> More info - http://www.stopfake.org/en/13-online-tools-that-help-to-verify-the-authenticity-of-a-photo/ (http://www.stopfake.org/en/13-online-tools-that-help-to-verify-the-authenticity-of-a-photo/)
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Thanks John.