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Images => Themes, Portfolio Series, PaW, or PaM => Topic started by: elsa hoffmann on May 15, 2016, 09:20:45

Title: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: elsa hoffmann on May 15, 2016, 09:20:45
Birds in flight - but let's make it interesting and only post images with TWO birds (or more) and not just singletons

BIF means BIRDS IN FLIGHT and not BOGS (Birds on gound)

I seriously need to work on my "tecnique" but I find I am pretty slow in reaction
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Frank Fremerey on May 15, 2016, 10:49:24
Elsa. Get a D500. Never seen anything like this before.
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: elsa hoffmann on May 15, 2016, 11:41:11
Elsa. Get a D500. Never seen anything like this before.

Sure Frank - send money  :o :) ;D
good camera cant out-shoot a bad shooter :)
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Frank Fremerey on May 15, 2016, 13:11:25
Good camera plus good shooter wins ....  with time comes money.
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Airy on May 15, 2016, 13:21:08
Elsa, those birds in the first shot admirably kept posing while you were setting up your wet plate camera ;)

So what did you say about your reaction times ?
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: elsa hoffmann on May 15, 2016, 16:29:41
Elsa, those birds in the first shot admirably kept posing while you were setting up your wet plate camera ;)

So what did you say about your reaction times ?

 ;D ;D

Airy - I find I take far too long to press the shutter when shooting birds - and also I find it near impossible to keep my finger shooting - I tend to have a built in thing that says I can only take 1 photo at a time. I just can not do it!! both these things cause me frustration and I miss the shots.
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: armando_m on May 15, 2016, 17:37:02
Elsa

From the shots you shared you seem to be doing just fine

It takes patience and a bit of luck , a wee bit different than directing someone in the studio, the dang birds do not seem to get the concept about facing towards the  light

Cheers

This guys are slow and quite photogenic
(https://armando-m.smugmug.com/Travel/Petatan/i-QS8RV7n/0/X2/_DSC8818-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Matthew Currie on May 15, 2016, 18:36:52
For those of us with slow equipment, a shore dwelling frigatebird is a good candidate.  They're slow and easy to track. 

D3200 with 55-300 zoom.
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Matthew Currie on May 15, 2016, 18:38:23
sorry, wrong button - meant to modify above to mention that this was taken on Half Moon Island in Belize.
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: elsa hoffmann on May 15, 2016, 18:58:03
Armando - I love the pelicans - they are just big flying boats those things...
Matthew - what are those birds? nicely caught in action!
I need practice!
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Matthew Currie on May 15, 2016, 20:23:49
Armando - I love the pelicans - they are just big flying boats those things...
Matthew - what are those birds? nicely caught in action!
I need practice!
The birds are magnificent frigatebirds.  You find them also on the Galapagos and elsewhere in South and Central America.  They are referred to as "kleptoparasitic," because they cannot dive for fish, so they attack other diving birds and steal their fish.  On Half Moon Caye in Belize, they share a nesting area with red-footed boobies, and the relationship is more or less peaceful, with the frigatebirds providing protection for a fee in stolen fish.  Think of them as sort of avian mobsters.
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Anthony on May 16, 2016, 00:57:46
Aerial piracy.
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: armando_m on May 16, 2016, 00:59:30
Anthony , impressive action !
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Matthew Currie on May 16, 2016, 23:47:05
Not nearly as impressive a performance as above, but I kind of liked the way these ibises looked against the Spanish moss.  This is in Phinizy Swamp park near Augusta, GA.
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Frank Fremerey on May 17, 2016, 00:08:02
Anthony. Wow. These birds fight in perfect light all feathers wonderfully defined
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: simato73 on May 17, 2016, 00:26:15
Anthony,  I am also impressed by the definition and the details of the feathers.
What did you use for the shot, Nikon or Fuji? I have an eye on that 100-400 lens. ... what I need is demonstration from real life that apart from the optical quality of the lens,  also the AF  system can keep up with the action.
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Anthony on May 17, 2016, 13:26:56
Armando, Frank, Matthew, Simone, thanks.

Simone, the shots were made on a D800 with 80-400VRII.  I found that a very good wildlife combination, despite not being the D800's speciality.  The lens is a great safari lens, being easy to handhold and not too heavy for walking around.

I do not think the X-T1 could have captured these shots (there are more in the series, all spot on focus) because of the slow AF lock on, the small number of PDAF points, and the viewfinder lag.  Maybe the X-T2 will solve these issues.  On the other hand, the Fuji 100-400 is optically superb (even better than the Nikon 80-400), even with the 1.4 t/c installed, and the AF is probably fast enough if the camera supporting it is fast enough.
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: simato73 on May 17, 2016, 13:36:15
Armando, Frank, Matthew, Simone, thanks.

Simone, the shots were made on a D800 with 80-400VRII.  I found that a very good wildlife combination, despite not being the D800's speciality.  The lens is a great safari lens, being easy to handhold and not too heavy for walking around.

I do not think the X-T1 could have captured these shots (there are more in the series, all spot on focus) because of the slow AF lock on, the small number of PDAF points, and the viewfinder lag.  Maybe the X-T2 will solve these issues.  On the other hand, the Fuji 100-400 is optically superb (even better than the Nikon 80-400), even with the 1.4 t/c installed, and the AF is probably fast enough if the camera supporting it is fast enough.

Thanks for the information.
So it really as I thought: it is all down to the AF capability of the Fuji's.
This is the limiting factor, and for certain applications such as this one the limitation is big.
For me this really means that the purchase of the 100-400 is delayed until the AF system is sufficiently capable.
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Asle F on May 20, 2016, 18:36:28
Two east of Greenland. I admit one of them is very close to the ground:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7718/26508638563_f493d7f3a5_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GotGGt)
Grønlandshavet (https://flic.kr/p/GotGGt) by Asle Feten (https://www.flickr.com/photos/afoton/), on Flickr
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Asle F on May 20, 2016, 18:37:29
And many at Svalbard:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7775/27079269916_cb3cd9c880_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HfUkw5)
Ved Sjettebreen (https://flic.kr/p/HfUkw5) by Asle Feten (https://www.flickr.com/photos/afoton/), on Flickr
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Kim Pilegaard on May 20, 2016, 18:39:24
Cranes in southern Sweden (D800 + 500/4 AF-S VR)
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: ColinM on May 20, 2016, 19:26:27
I promise this isn't a multiple exposure.

(http://www.pbase.com/celidh/image/125200449/original.jpg)

This loses definition in the cropping, but I love this view of the incoming kite

(http://www.pbase.com/celidh/image/140896935/original.jpg)
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: tommiejeep on May 21, 2016, 04:19:00
Many cool and good images.
House Crows Harassing a Booted Eagle (dark morph) at altitude :)

Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: FredCrowBear on May 22, 2016, 16:19:06
Snow Geese, in central Pennsylvania, USA, on their migration north.  D7100 and Nikkor 200-500mm at 500mm.  Cropped from 6000 pixels to 3200 pixels (horizontal), before downsizing to 1200 for posting.  PP in PS CC 2015.  Full disclosure - small portion of another bird's tail removed from left edge of image. 
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: ArendV on May 25, 2016, 21:42:49
wood pigeon in flight

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7121/26642590593_20d9b70d1c_o.jpg)
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: ArendV on May 30, 2016, 22:01:50
And a grey heron

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7401/27191310562_6a540bba65_o.jpg)
Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Peter Connan on June 04, 2016, 16:52:26
Great thread, not sure how I missed it for so long!

Title: Re: [Theme] 2 BIF's
Post by: Frank Fremerey on June 04, 2016, 18:05:36
I got a collection of several dozens of Swifts in my backyard
Training my AF. VR. PANNING. AIMING. TELE. skills with these
completely new field for me.