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Images => People, Portraits, Street, PJ & Cityscapes => Topic started by: armando_m on February 11, 2016, 18:19:37

Title: Leds or Flash?
Post by: armando_m on February 11, 2016, 18:19:37

A couple of brave dancers combined with powder
We did this on the roof of the building where the studio is
While we tried to combine the flashes with the leds, the studio lights overpowered the leds significantly

Flash 1/160 F8 to F/10 ISO 100
1.
(https://armando-m.smugmug.com/People/Powder-dance/i-pN3CqJ8/0/X2/_DSC8336_DxO-Edit-X2.jpg)

2.
(https://armando-m.smugmug.com/People/Powder-dance/i-DDpFkQz/0/X2/_DSC8416-Edit-X2.jpg)

Leds f3.5 to F4.5 1/160 iso 3200
3.
(https://armando-m.smugmug.com/People/Powder-dance/i-XcTGV2F/0/X2/_DSC8368_DxO-Edit-X2.jpg)

4.
(https://armando-m.smugmug.com/People/Powder-dance/i-2PB7sBQ/0/X2/_DSC8380_DxO-Edit-X2.jpg)

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: Frank Fremerey on February 11, 2016, 18:44:54

Love the expression in 1 and 2.

Very intense different mood. Very well.done!

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: Jakov Minić on February 11, 2016, 18:57:44

Flash most definitely!

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: Thomas G on February 11, 2016, 22:03:12

The answer: flash!
#1 pure dynamics
#2 strong pose, camera position could be a bit more front up to the model, towards the right end of the dust arc, same elevation.

LED:
I hesitate to agree with the light mixture. I think it's due to the intense narrow band coloring LEDs show.
#3 doesn't work for me
#4 close, the purple light in the hair-splash dust is good, the blue on the legs is too bright, i'd think the face does not match and would improve the capture if artificial LED light would be used as well.
(I imagine 3 colors plus black).


Poses, framing, angles - all on the good side with little room for imp for #2. I thing it's a great start with at least one strong keeper, #1.

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: Mongo on February 11, 2016, 23:02:22

Mongo loves these Armando - excellent idea and execution. #1 and 2 are real standouts. Particularly like #2 - the closer perspective just gives it a little more impact. A lot of raw energy and captured motion.

Must plead ignorance on the LED arrangement so cannot comment on that aspect.

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: armando_m on February 12, 2016, 04:15:50

Thanks for commenting

Flash it is then !

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: tommiejeep on February 12, 2016, 04:43:31

Armando, love the first two so agree on flash.  The light from the second set of LED seems weak, diffused.  Colours just do not come through well.  I do envy your group and the experimenting you do.
Many thanks for posting
Tom

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: Almass on February 12, 2016, 09:31:38

Mixing flash and LED is possible but would require very strong LED lighting to compensate or lower your shutter speed to let more LED ambient.....etc.

My preferred pic is number three. There is a strong dynamism in the picture with both dancer and powder shooting upwards.
What really makes the shot for me is the stretch of her neck and her face in focus.
If you look at the hands, it is the only shot where there is synergy between the powder and the hands.

I have reservations on the other pictures as the body figure mainly crotch - hips - inside thighs - bum and belly are hindering the shots.

Now for the negatives. the green does not work and is overwhelming. I would like to see more ground under her feet to help the jump.
Removing the copyright signature and adding more ground is a 5 secs job.
The green cast to be neutralized, enhance the skyline and this is a quick and dirty as to what your Jpeg resolution allows. You can do wonders with the original RAW file.
Unfortunately, I cannot spend more time on it and fine tune a low res Jpeg, but this should give you a road map as to what can be achieved with this image.






(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Duke_1/_DSC8368_DxO-Edit-X2-3_zps9giw6pos.jpg)

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: Erik Lund on February 12, 2016, 13:58:08

With flash you have the ability to freeze the moment with very short burst times and this is what apparently works in the first flash images.

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: armando_m on February 12, 2016, 15:33:20

Thank you Tom, Almass , Erik

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: armando_m on November 05, 2016, 03:31:33

Adding another image I like , just found it today

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: tommiejeep on November 05, 2016, 03:55:39

Armando, great find.  Probably my favourite of the images posted, great pose , action and the 'dust' leaving her hands.  I like her looking towards you.   Funny , I'm doing much more B&W.  In fact, just bought a Pen F with 12mm f2 primarily for B&W 'Street' and Documentary.  I guess I'll have to work on using motion blur  ;) .
Tom

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: Erik Lund on November 05, 2016, 15:07:00

Very creative use of model and dust! ;)

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: elsa hoffmann on November 05, 2016, 16:08:14

I really really like this one. I am already thinking who is going to clean up the mess after I try this :)

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: Thomas G on November 05, 2016, 16:45:15

The new find is very nice. Like the pose and the light in the dust.

Title: Re: Leds or Flash?
Post by: armando_m on November 05, 2016, 22:06:36

thanks for the comments

we did this mess outside
everyting gets dust all over not just the model,  camera flshes lens, you, everything

we used maybe a 2 or 3 kg