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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: Michael Erlewine on September 28, 2015, 20:24:27
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Claiming to be rock solid, as a rumor, the new Zeiss Otus lens, which will be announced in October, is apparently a 28mm, presumably f/1.4.
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-new-zeiss-otus-is-a-28mm-lens/
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Can't wait
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It's here and looking awesome :)
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8338084607/zeiss-announces-otus-1-4-28-third-lens-for-otus-series (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8338084607/zeiss-announces-otus-1-4-28-third-lens-for-otus-series)
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It can only be fantasticly sharp, I looked quickly at the description and no mention of Bokeh fore or aft...
The closest current wide Nikkor is 35mm AFS 1.4 it has a delicious smooth rendering, painterly... Also amazing stopped down to f/11 I found out in the Black forest.
So if one need to add a sharp wide knife the new 28mm 1.4 is most likely it!
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From NikonRumors:
"the latest member of the ZEISS Otus family is excellent for taking pictures of image elements in the foreground, as they take on a greater feeling of depth to the scene due to the wide background and the open aperture; here, the lens’s harmonious bokeh ensures a 3D effect."
But with 95mm filter (same as AFS 200-500) and over 1.3kg (only slightly lighter than 70-200/2.8 VRII), it's a huge lens. Don't you think a 28/2 at half the size would have been more practical?
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I love a good 28mm. But then, I like small also.
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Thanks Roland!
This is not about Practical I'm afraid ;) This is Sharpness... and it creates 3D effect with it...
I remember seeing some fantastic images from a 28mm 2.8 Ais (the MF You know! ;) not the AF-D that is a completly other design ) here on the site, sharpness not lacking but talent involved and good B&W PPing ;)
BTW The old Nikkor AF-D 28mm 1.4 is no where near these new monster AFS 1.4 designs - it's much more like the 35mm 1.4 Ais
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This will certainly be an amazing lens.
Wish they had made a slower T-S version. Personally, I'm always more bothered by keystoning than by lack of sharpness in wide-angle shots. Maybe one could make a tilt-shift or at least a shift adapter for a Sony mirrorless camera since the image circle is probably quite a bit larger than the 35mm sensor.
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But with 95mm filter (same as AFS 200-500) and over 1.3kg (only slightly lighter than 70-200/2.8 VRII), it's a huge lens. Don't you think a 28/2 at half the size would have been more practical?
That one would be more likely to be called Milvus. ;)
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I like where Zeiss is going with the Loxia line - nice and compact, even the new 21/2.8 has 52mm filter like the 35 and 50mm versions. If they expand the series to include something like 25/2.8, 85/2, 135/3.5 and 180/4 along similar lines, that would be a great set.
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Well, for us poorer folk, enter the Sigma 20mm 1.4 Art ;) . I am assuming around the same weight as the 24 1.4 and 35 1.4. Great interesting times for wide shooters ;) . I like your idea of the longer Loxia lenses.
Tom
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Well, for us poorer folk, enter the Sigma 20mm 1.4 Art ....
Or, possibly in my case, the Fujifilm 16/1.4 for APSC(Fuji only).
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The cross section looks...to my inexpert eyes... somewhat like a double Gauss with a wide converter in front of it
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Since, aside for family photos, I am all tripod oriented, I don't care about weight, only about how fast the lens is and how sharp wide-open. I am sure it will cost an arm and a leg. I will sell lenses like my Nikon PC lenses (24mm, 85mm, 45mm) since they are not well-enough corrected for the work I am doing these days.
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...I will sell lenses like my Nikon PC lenses (24mm, 85mm, 45mm) ...
I'd be interested to know when you do, Michael!
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Chambers has a photo of the new Otus next to the old 28/2 ZF2 on his front page. It ain't small!
http://diglloyd.com (http://diglloyd.com)
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The cross section looks...to my inexpert eyes... somewhat like a double Gauss with a wide converter in front of it
Yes the group colored purple at the rear is a classic double gauss design.
This is not about Practical I'm afraid ;) This is Sharpness...
True. But it occurred to me that lenses of this size usually come with a tripod mount - and users of this lens aren't going to hand-hold this lens if ultimate sharpness is what they are after. Without a tripod collar on the lens, that is a lot of weight hanging off the lens mount and camera tripod mount. It would be ironic if a lens designed for ultimate sharpness pulled the lens mount out of alignment, causing loss of sharpness. The problem is even worse if you try to mount it on a mirrorless camera via adaptor - how would you support the whole rig?
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The designers aren't photographers and thus have little or no clue as to how the lens will be used. Nothing particular for Zeiss I'm afraid.
Such heavy lenses should have a tripod mount notwithstanding their shorter focal length. Using them hand-held is wasting the ultimate quality they can deliver. Warping the camera mount is a very real problem when such lenses are hooked up to mirrorless cameras as these invariable are much more delicate in interior build.
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A burden of 1350g on the lens mount without any support. Ok it is approx. the same weight as a D4s body, but that one has a centre of gravity much closer to the mount...
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Need to use it on a set of video-rails with a forward support with roller bearings. The lens does not move, so that is what I will do, if I get it.
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Leica M 28mm f/1.4 that was realesed this year is 440 grams 81mm long and 61mm wide....
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Is the Leica as good? (whatever "good" is :)) Both cost an arm and a leg, too much for me so I'll never know...
We shouldn't just point the finger at Zeiss for making heavy lenses with no tripod mount, Nikon have done it too: AI 8mm2.8 fisheye, and early AF 80-200/2.8 ED zoom.