NikonGear'23
Gear Talk => Processing & Publication => Topic started by: MFloyd on April 18, 2023, 17:42:04
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Redundant post
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Seems effective.
Amazing setting/light levels
A great way to be able to make ISO 25600 usable
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Great results.
The AI Noise Reduction is also introduced in Camera Raw now.
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Very impressive.
This eliminates the temptation of DXO Pure Raw 3.
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Another example with people (apparently more challenging); noise reduction at 50%; ISO 12’800
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52828244117_fb41ab2d69_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oufyt8)
_8528609.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2oufyt8)
without
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52829000139_cefea2f983_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oujrcZ)
_8528609-Avec accentuation-Bruit.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2oujrcZ)
with IA NR
First quick conclusion: the NR IA generated pictures do not show the “cheesy” look compared to traditional NR treatment.
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It is AI and not IA.
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An example with high ISO of 4000 with the D700 and two stops underexposed, so pretty dark. Brightened in ACR.
Before - After
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An example with high ISO of 4000 with the D700 and two stops underexposed, so pretty dark. Brightened in ACR.
Before - After
Looks satisfactory ? No ? And what is IA and what is not, might be a lengthy debate, I prefer to forego. :)
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To my eyes it looks just as unnatural as those others Extreme Noise Reduction software ;) But I need to study in detail, this is just the first impression.
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IA is the French version of AI? Like OTAN/NATO?
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IA is the French version of AI? Like OTAN/NATO?
Yes: Intelligence Artificielle (IA). And speaking every day French (although not my mother tongue), I have a tendency to mix them up.
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Another example with people (apparently more challenging); noise reduction at 50%; ISO 12’800
with IA NR
First quick conclusion: the NR IA generated pictures do not show the “cheesy” look compared to traditional NR treatment.
Looks like the AI is doing an admirable job. The texture of the man's cap is very well preserved.
An example with high ISO of 4000 with the D700 and two stops underexposed, so pretty dark. Brightened in ACR.
Before - After
Again, the details seem to be well preserved. I wonder if the AI interpreted the horizontal streaks as the characteristic of anamorphic lenses?
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In my opinion (it's free so it's worthless) the racing photo looks better without noise reduction. The noise/grain gives it a more realistic quality. For the people photo, it's a toss-up. I would probably go with the reduced noise photo but they seem close enough for the noise to not really matter for me. The IA definitely helps the last photo and, if this type of scene was something I often encountered, I would be tempted to use this software.
Thanks for posting this.
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An example with high ISO of 4000 with the D700 and two stops underexposed, so pretty dark. Brightened in ACR.
Before - After
D700 famous for its banding at higher iso.
When to apply noise reduction and at what extreme surely depends!
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In my opinion (it's free so it's worthless) the racing photo looks better without noise reduction. The noise/grain gives it a more realistic quality. For the people photo, it's a toss-up. I would probably go with the reduced noise photo but they seem close enough for the noise to not really matter for me. The IA definitely helps the last photo and, if this type of scene was something I often encountered, I would be tempted to use this software.
Thanks for posting this.
Thx. I consider this as an additional tool. But normally, I can live with noise. Maybe I will use this a couple of times. Opposite to the whole new masking tool set, which I’m using every day. Speeding enormously the process; essential for me as a sport photographer :)
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This seems to be an improvement over the previous Lightroom/ACR noise reduction, which aggressively removed detail from high ISO images.
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Nikon D5 at ISO 102'400. Denoising 100%; sharpness 50%
Without AI denoising
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52833407222_696dfed4fa_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ouH2hb)
_D500878.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2ouH2hb)
With AI denoising at 100%
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52834378050_2d62eb3401_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2ouMZSA)
_D500878-Avec accentuation-Bruit.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2ouMZSA)
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Impressive results Christian
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Impressive results Christian
That looks pretty good indeed.
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Impressive results Christian
That looks pretty good indeed.
Thank you Fons; thank you John. I agree. Adobe did a magnificent job.
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I see excellent results!
Up to now I use Topaz Denoise that’s good but with some artefacts depending on the photo
It’s true that photos after AI noise reduction looks like unnatural, a little fake , flat 8)
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AI LRC applied on “real” pictures
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52827654500_a72628484f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oucxcj)
Lr NR Ai.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2oucxcj) by Christian Vermeulen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/110731726@N07/), sur Flickr
Comparison
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52827458974_93f00c3fe2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oubx5b)
_D655637.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2oubx5b) by Christian Vermeulen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/110731726@N07/), sur Flickr
Best I could achieve with traditional NR method.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52827459079_45440ff1b7_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oubx6Z)
_D655637-Avec accentuation-Bruit.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2oubx6Z) by Christian Vermeulen (https://www.flickr.com/photos/110731726@N07/), sur Flickr
Result with AI NR.
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Impressive...D5 too?
Lovely panning, as usual.
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Impressive...D5 too?
Lovely panning, as usual.
+1 :)
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Impressive...D5 too?
Lovely panning, as usual.
D6. For me still the best camera around. A couple of notches above the already excellent D5. And compared to the Z9 I had on loan from NPS ? The D6 outperforms with regard to AF. And does a better job in my domain of automotive sport photography. Just my humble opinion, absolutely not an absolute statement.