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Title: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Randy Stout on July 24, 2021, 01:58:23
This loon was imaged several years ago on a cold April morn.  The loons had just returned to this northern lake, and were settling in for mating and raising a family.

I floated around with them in my little loon boat, glad that I had dressed warmly , as it was 28 degrees when I put the boat in the water.

Nikon D4, 600 VR. f/5.6 1/640s, ISO 1600.  Fill flash with Better Beamer.

Cheers

Randy
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Fons Baerken on July 24, 2021, 09:48:39
Beautiful like a monochrome.
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: golunvolo on July 24, 2021, 12:27:22
Beautiful image, pose and technique. Agree with Fons the almost monochrome quality works very well here too.
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Randy Stout on July 24, 2021, 13:52:22
Thanks folks:

I thought about converting it to B&W, but then you lose that subtle red in the eye, which is such a essential part of a loon!  May try it anyway.

Cheers

Randy

Any thoughts about the B&W vs color? preferences?
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: ianwatson on July 24, 2021, 16:26:55
A beautiful photograph, Randy! I agree that the colour may very subtle in your original version but removing it takes away a little of the richness.
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Randy Stout on July 24, 2021, 16:29:26
Thanks Ian:

I agree, still prefer the original version, but always good to try options. 

Cheers

Randy
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: golunvolo on July 24, 2021, 17:10:36
This image works but it is color version all the way for me.

  Thanks for the option!
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Dogman on July 24, 2021, 18:50:23
I'm a B&W guy but I agree that just that little hint of color improves the image.  Good show!
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Gone on July 24, 2021, 21:53:39
I agree - the pure B&W looks flatter - much prefer the first one.
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: MFloyd on July 24, 2021, 22:49:58
Excellent ! Prefer the color one.
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: John Geerts on July 25, 2021, 08:38:11
Great shot.

The subtle colors are perfect for the color version
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Akira on July 25, 2021, 13:58:06
Yes, the subtle color retains the atmosphere of the scene better to me.  Nice capture anyway!
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Nasos Kosmas on July 26, 2021, 18:45:02
Excellent shot!
I prefer the original one :)
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: antonoat on August 04, 2021, 00:24:09
Stunning photo of a beautiful bird, I imagine this capture made your day! I too prefer the colour version, the soft subtle colours and gentle light create the perfect atmosphere.
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: ThomasAdams on August 05, 2021, 22:15:28
I really enjoy this beautiful photograph! Thank you for sharing!
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Randy Stout on August 07, 2021, 21:49:11
Thanks everyone for your input.  I appreciate it and value it!

Randy
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: ThomasAdams on August 30, 2021, 19:19:04
Randy,

 Any photos or details on your boat or methods here on NG? I would be very interested in a behind the scenes look. Unless of course it's a family secret  ;D
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: rosko on September 06, 2021, 06:07:08
A master piece of bird photography !
Definitely the colour version : poetic atmosphere.
 ;)
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Randy Stout on September 07, 2021, 14:50:03
Randy,

 Any photos or details on your boat or methods here on NG? I would be very interested in a behind the scenes look. Unless of course it's a family secret  ;D

Thomas:

I shoot out of three different setups, depending on the body of water I am at. They each have their plus and minuses.  On bigger lakes, this is the boat I use.  The red seat can be moved around and is used for in flight shots where I won't be able to track them with the pedestal mounted 600mm. The blue seat does pivot  360 degrees too, but to complete the pivot I have to slide it to the other side of the boat a bit along the track you can just see poking out under the front and rear of the pedestal. 
The trolling motor is controlled by a hand held remote, can do what is called spot lock to keep you in one area, even if the wind is blowing, and a few other tricks.
This is the 2019 version of this boat, it continues to evolve.  I do put an outboard gas engine on when going on bigger lakes where I need the speed, but use the silent trolling motor whenever possible.
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: golunvolo on September 10, 2021, 10:07:23
I´m very jealous  :)
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Kim Pilegaard on September 10, 2021, 13:11:01
The boat looks like a spacious studio. Where I photograph loons (southern Sweden) they seem to be afraid of boats. I have tried kayaks, canoes, rowing boats with and without camouflage, but rarely came close. I have finally found that the best way to get them close is to sit on the shore and just wait for them to come near by themselves.
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Randy Stout on September 10, 2021, 14:05:50
Kim:

I appreciate the loons being spooky around boats.  In general, in the areas I work, there is enough fishing from boats going on that the loons are used to them.  They may have different tolerances, but it is usually doable.  I am not patient enough to sit on the shore line, since at least here, they might come by a spot very often! 

Quick story:  Loons do apparently recognize different boats, which surprised me.  As I mentioned, I have several rigs, and on lakes where I use my kayak a lot, they get really use to me, and let me get pretty close. My good friend who shoots out of a kayak also, has several lakes he frequents.  His kayak is blue, mine is dark brown.  When we switch lakes, neither set of loons will let the person in the
"wrong" color kayak, get near to them!!... We have done this both ways and it is consistent.  I guess we will just have to swap kayaks when we go to the different lakes, so the right color kayak is used on each lake!

Randy
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Kim Pilegaard on September 10, 2021, 16:42:40
Very interesting observation, that they seem to get familiar with boats they see often. In "my" lake, the resident pair often patrols the boundaries of their territory - usually in the late afternoon. I normally spend 2-3 hours sitting at the lake shore and most times I will have a "visit" of one or more loons within a comfortable distance a couple of times. I hope they also get accustomed to me. According to your observation, I should then appear in the same clothes/camouflage every time.
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: Randy Stout on September 10, 2021, 17:57:48
Kim:

I do try to wear similar, muted colors every time I am out in the boat, although not camo.  I sit on the floor most of the time in the seat you can see in my boat image, to reduce my profile.  To be honest, I am not sure if that makes much difference, but anything I can do to make them more comfortable.  Once they truly get used to you, some of them will swim up and circle the boat as if to say good morning.  That is uncommon, but I have had a few individuals that seemed quite friendly over the many years.

The opposite can happen as well.  On one of the lakes a follow, I am almost positive that there was a new female 3 years ago. Both members of that mating pair had been quite tolerant, and then the next spring, the female was going wacko when I got within 100yards.  She did this with my friend as well.  When the male was minding the chicks by himself, he would give us a gander, and then go back to fishing while we bobbed around them.  We have tried to very gradually get the new female use to us, with minimal success so far!

Randy
Title: Re: Cold spring morning - loon flap
Post by: ThomasAdams on September 10, 2021, 18:34:34
Randy,

 Thank you so much for the behind the scenes. I really appreciate it and my guess would be that my wife may veto that "lens" purchase  ;D. But I will certainly be on the lookout for something that may suit my needs. I like the purpose built seats as well, a very nice touch! I read later where wrote that some loons (and perhaps other birds) get used to certain shapes and colors. So obviously I could get lucky - but I would obviously need to be patient and continue returning to the same area(s) to hopefully establish my boats presence as non-threatening.

Regards,
Tom


Thomas:

I shoot out of three different setups, depending on the body of water I am at. They each have their plus and minuses.  On bigger lakes, this is the boat I use.  The red seat can be moved around and is used for in flight shots where I won't be able to track them with the pedestal mounted 600mm. The blue seat does pivot  360 degrees too, but to complete the pivot I have to slide it to the other side of the boat a bit along the track you can just see poking out under the front and rear of the pedestal. 
The trolling motor is controlled by a hand held remote, can do what is called spot lock to keep you in one area, even if the wind is blowing, and a few other tricks.
This is the 2019 version of this boat, it continues to evolve.  I do put an outboard gas engine on when going on bigger lakes where I need the speed, but use the silent trolling motor whenever possible.