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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on October 04, 2018, 17:04:03

Title: Russian space lens ZIKAR-1A
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on October 04, 2018, 17:04:03
Now this is a really, really rare lens:

ZIKAR-1A, from the russian space defence program, to detect fired rockets aiming at the (then) USSR from about 45.000 km away, mounted at some camera system from a satellite in orbit around earth. It is a catadioptric system with two Beryllium mirrors, f1.2/100mm and some fluorite aux. lenses. Several such systems were successfully launched into space and were in operation several years long.

(http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20189/455_Zikar1_collage_1.jpg) (http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20189/big_455_Zikar1_collage_1.jpg)

Now the interesting part is, that this mirror lens transmits rather flat down to 320nm (then steep cut downwards), my spectrometer tells me. A f1.2/100mm for UV !!

(http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20189/455_ZIKAR1_trans_1.png) (http://forum.mflenses.com/userpix/20189/big_455_ZIKAR1_trans_1.png)
Title: Re: Russian space lens ZIKAR-1A
Post by: Birna Rørslett on October 04, 2018, 17:10:02
What about the register distance -- room enough to get infinity focus with your m43 cameras?
Title: Re: Russian space lens ZIKAR-1A
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on October 04, 2018, 17:13:36
What about the register distance -- room enough to get infinity focus with your m43 cameras?

Working on it: This is the tricky part, there is no mechanical thread etc. so I have to have my mechanic built a clamp for it.
We'll see soon...
Title: Re: Russian space lens ZIKAR-1A
Post by: pluton on October 04, 2018, 21:39:33
Do you think that the ZIKAR-1A shot film in the satellite, or did it operate in the later CCD era?
Title: Re: Russian space lens ZIKAR-1A
Post by: Akira on October 04, 2018, 23:19:58
Klaus, thank you for sharing!

I'm also interested in the size of the image circle.  Hope it is of enough size!
Title: Re: Russian space lens ZIKAR-1A
Post by: Jack Dahlgren on October 05, 2018, 00:12:54
What about the register distance -- room enough to get infinity focus with your m43 cameras?
Or a Z7?
Title: Re: Russian space lens ZIKAR-1A
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on October 05, 2018, 11:00:14
Do you think that the ZIKAR-1A shot film in the satellite, or did it operate in the later CCD era?

It was in the 70s, so it was a TV transmission unit installed, so no film based anymore.


Klaus, thank you for sharing!

I'm also interested in the size of the image circle.  Hope it is of enough size!

looks like approx. 32mm, so enough for APS-C, but no FF

Or a Z7?

Possibly, if I decide to get one...

Title: Re: Russian space lens ZIKAR-1A
Post by: Toby on October 05, 2018, 17:39:10
Worth noting that the Z7 exhibits banding due to the phase detection AF pixels. This is the same thing that plagues the Sony a6xxx series cameras. It appears mostly in darker areas when you lift the shadows, and sometimes in extreme contrast situations. I returned my two a6000s and certainly won't be looking for a Z series camera unless they do something about that.
Title: Re: Russian space lens ZIKAR-1A
Post by: Dr Klaus Schmitt on October 20, 2018, 09:22:19
Worth noting that the Z7 exhibits banding due to the phase detection AF pixels. This is the same thing that plagues the Sony a6xxx series cameras. It appears mostly in darker areas when you lift the shadows, and sometimes in extreme contrast situations. I returned my two a6000s and certainly won't be looking for a Z series camera unless they do something about that.

Thanks for letting me know Toby, wasn't aware of this!
Title: Re: Russian space lens ZIKAR-1A
Post by: FredCrowBear on October 21, 2018, 04:24:26
Very cool and very cool history!
Title: Re: Russian space lens ZIKAR-1A
Post by: Ethan on October 21, 2018, 10:16:47
Worth noting that the Z7 exhibits banding due to the phase detection AF pixels. This is the same thing that plagues the Sony a6xxx series cameras. It appears mostly in darker areas when you lift the shadows, and sometimes in extreme contrast situations. I returned my two a6000s and certainly won't be looking for a Z series camera unless they do something about that.

Nevermind that banding appear in particular instances and only when the shadows are raised up to 4 stops.

But, I guess it is a non starter for any photographer who raises his shadows in post by 4 stops. But  then again to each his own.