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Images => People, Portraits, Street, PJ & Cityscapes => Topic started by: armando_m on September 06, 2018, 02:44:27

Title: Mariachi outfit
Post by: armando_m on September 06, 2018, 02:44:27
At the old tequila distillery
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: Akira on September 06, 2018, 03:37:37
The blue color of the costume looks beautiful in the dark, colorless environment.

In #1, however, the blue tint at the entrance gives a nice echo to the costume.  Well done, Armando!
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: Fons Baerken on September 06, 2018, 07:36:11
The blue color of the costume looks beautiful in the dark, colorless environment.

In #1, however, the blue tint at the entrance gives a nice echo to the costume.  Well done, Armando!

The entrance blue thing is a catch but also a distraction since the girl is too far off into the frame :) to justify the notion of an echo.
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: armando_m on September 06, 2018, 15:23:38
Thanks Akira and Fons, for the first image I have another one zoomed in closer, or another option is to crop it a bit
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: Nikkor Shooter on September 07, 2018, 23:43:16


The tones are very well rendered but I think
the model is too statically posed.
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: Bill Mellen on September 07, 2018, 23:57:26
Both are lovely images Armando. 

The setting reminds me of a visit to the town of Tequilla in 2005. My wife and I have very fond memories of that trip.
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: armando_m on September 08, 2018, 15:19:31
Both are lovely images Armando. 

The setting reminds me of a visit to the town of Tequilla in 2005. My wife and I have very fond memories of that trip.
Thank you Bill, the shooting was at hacienda la Rojeña own by Tequila cuervo
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: armando_m on September 08, 2018, 15:25:52

The tones are very well rendered but I think
the model is too statically posed.

Thank you, light is by flash bounced against the wall Nikon CLS TTL

Statically yes, you have a good eye, she is new in front of the camera,  a bit stiff as she had a sprained ankle, tired with the shooting, I'm not very good directing, and to be honest the outfit does not allow much movement

Regarding posing this one is probably better
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: Frank Fremerey on September 08, 2018, 17:44:23
for me the second one is a strike of genious lighting wise and composition and expression wise. A story is told...

The first one is nice but too harmless for my taste, in the last one i feel geometrically challenged and the model has a tad of an uneasyness in her expression.

That is how I see it .
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: Nikkor Shooter on September 08, 2018, 19:55:33
I'm not very good directing, and to be honest the outfit does not allow much movement… this one is probably better

Yes, Armando, very much so!

One can't take what one won't give… and, in this shot, there is
a lot given that you could take… and very well. Cool!


May I observe that the use of flash — even bounced TTL — was
of no benefit in these!
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: Aeros4 on September 08, 2018, 21:37:35
Holla Armando! Muchas gracias for sharing this set. It made me burst out in song with Cielito Lindo. Ie yie yie yie, canta y no juras...... ::) :) :D ;D
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: armando_m on September 08, 2018, 23:53:21
Thanks for all the comments

Interesting to see the different opinions and tastes

My favorite is #2 with the girl in blue
And for the girl in red while she was able to move freely, I don't like the expression

Flash allowed an exposure at iso 100 f8 1/125, ambient light is for 1/30 iso 6400 f3.5, so for me was very beneficial
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: Nikkor Shooter on September 09, 2018, 00:10:13
Flash allowed an exposure at iso 100 f8 1/125, ambient light is for 1/30 iso 6400 f3.5, so for me was very beneficial

What I don't get is that at that power ratio, the bounced flash
produced no specular highlights and, on such low reflective walls,
a speed light would have cut it.

There is something that does't equates right, Armando… could you
please explain as there is something that escapes me.
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: armando_m on September 09, 2018, 03:13:38
I meant iso 800  not 100
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: Nikkor Shooter on September 09, 2018, 03:25:30
I meant iso 800  not 100

This means a 7 stops difference? … bounced? … at this distance? … with a speed light?
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: Seapy on September 09, 2018, 09:36:47
This means a 7 stops difference? … bounced? … at this distance? … with a speed light?

Seven stops???  Why  the apparent agro?  Enjoy the beauty in the images, live in peace.  :o
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: Nikkor Shooter on September 09, 2018, 11:53:17
Why  the apparent agro?  Enjoy the beauty in the images, live in peace.  :o

I should not do math at 03:25 … it should read 4 stops!
Nevertheless less, cool wisdom, Robert!
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: armando_m on September 09, 2018, 14:53:40
I'm sorry you want to be precise and I'm being lazy guessing what the exposure was for an image I took years ago

Thanks for your comments
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: Nikkor Shooter on September 09, 2018, 15:16:35
I'm sorry you want to be precise and I'm being lazy guessing what the exposure was for an image I took years ago


Don't get me wrong here, Armando, these concerns are honest and I am not star-

ting a fight… at all, I don't have that kind of nature.

My experience being

I ask the question because there could be something for me to learn here or there
maybe an imprecision in the exif that puzzles me.

I cannot observe — in any form — the presence of a flash assisted capture but it
may be that I miss it.

I would get more joy learning something from you than suggesting the exif wrong.

But, if you can't remember, I can live with that too. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: ArthurDent on September 09, 2018, 17:42:20
I like all three, but number 2 the most. Very nice photos, did the distillary provide the model?
Title: Re: Mariachi outfit
Post by: charlie on September 10, 2018, 07:35:16
I cannot observe — in any form — the presence of a flash assisted capture but it
may be that I miss it.

I think what you are missing is that if the flash would not have fired the model would be in near total darkness. The only light illuminating the model is from the flash bounced off the wall to the right of the camera. The quality of the bounced flash matches the ambient light coming through the door in the background well enough so that your brain has been deceived?