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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: Frode on June 29, 2018, 18:12:32

Title: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Frode on June 29, 2018, 18:12:32

According to Steve Perry the AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR are one of the approved lenses for D850 (?!);

https://backcountrygallery.com/nikon-d850-review/

Thought this lens was «outdated» when used on newer bodies....
Experiences?
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Ann on June 29, 2018, 19:03:29
I believe that the VR (1) tended to vignette?

But if you are happy with its performance on your camera, there is no reason not to use it.

I try to avoid using Vignetting Controls in the software (or I reduce its setting considerably) because my experience is that, while trying to even out the corners, de-vignetting kills details and colour in the sky.
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: ArthurDent on June 29, 2018, 19:31:27
The original 70-200 VR f/2.8 works great on DX cameras and is considerably less expensive than the later versions. I have read it is a little dark in the corners on FX, but have no personal experience to verify that assertion.
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Jakov Minić on June 29, 2018, 19:41:07
Unless you would like to stitch panoramas, it will be just fine!
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Asle F on June 29, 2018, 20:18:28
And when I stitch panoramas, corner performance doesn't matter at all, because that is easily masked out.

This lens is probably my second most used lens on my D800E.
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Frode on June 30, 2018, 03:10:27
Thank you, all 🙂.

I’m considering a used one, but as far as I can remember rumor has it that its «resolution» isn’t up for the task (when combined with high resolution cameras like D8xx...(?).
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Ann on June 30, 2018, 18:01:36
How large do you intend to print?

I doubt if you will notice much difference in resolution under normal repro. sizes.
(No-one, except for you, is likely to be pixel-peeping your images at 100%!

 :)
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Frode on June 30, 2018, 18:19:52
How large do you intend to print?

I doubt if you will notice much difference in resolution under normal repro. sizes.
(No-one, except for you, is likely to be pixel-peeping your images at 100%!

 :)

Thanks again, Ann 🙂,

My standard print size is A3.

Think I’ll give it a try 🙂.
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: armando_m on June 30, 2018, 18:45:38
I borrowed once and used it on the D800, it is fantastic, no complains at all on image quality
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Luke Miller on June 30, 2018, 19:04:45
70-200 VR1 works fine on my D850.  Image is a 2/3rd crop taken at 200mm @f2.8.

(https://nikongear.net/revival/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lukemiller.photos%2Fphotos%2F70-200mm.jpg&hash=e3af4b57e6167155d4aaafa9cd83b805a120fba5)
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: John Harkus on July 09, 2018, 17:30:25

I think you mis-interpreted the lens list, it's the new Fl 70-200, and the Mk2 version that are recommended for the 850.

John

According to Steve Perry the AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR are one of the approved lenses for D850 (?!);

https://backcountrygallery.com/nikon-d850-review/

Thought this lens was «outdated» when used on newer bodies....
Experiences?
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Frank Fremerey on July 10, 2018, 07:34:41
I am contemplating to buy the FL as soon as I am able to hold my cameras again and take some time to test it. e-infin sells it for 1900€ which is a price I can easily sell it used later. Most countries do not have trouble to service Nikon Products. This seems to be a special feature of Nikon USA.

Nikon receive exactly the same amount from everyone for every product they ship.
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Frode on July 10, 2018, 08:58:04
I think you mis-interpreted the lens list, it's the new Fl 70-200, and the Mk2 version that are recommended for the 850.

John

Three AFS 70- 200 2.8 VR lenses are listed....;

http://www.nikon-image.com/products/slr/lineup/d850/system_lens.html#a1
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Erik Lund on July 10, 2018, 09:56:08
I'm sure you can find many reviews of the old mark I lens if you look around,,,


It had weak corner performance at about 135-200mm so yes was mostly good for DX unless you use it for center sharpness which is very good.


As Jakov says, very noticable if you try to stitch images, no matter the overlap.
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Birna Rørslett on July 10, 2018, 10:15:47
I had the 70-200 v.1 and gave it up due to the the bad corner performance. Made stitching for landscapes almost impossible as I usually shoot this kind of subject at 200 mm or thereabouts to get maximum detail.

Either the 125/2.5 CV or 200/2 AFS is excellent alternative for the given purpose.
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: MFloyd on July 10, 2018, 11:12:25
No experience with older versions, but the AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8E FL ED VR version, I have for about a year now, is probably the best I had with lenses (not only zoom lenses).
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Mongo on July 10, 2018, 11:42:23
Mongo had the VR 1 for some time and used it on D800 and possibly on D800E. Found it generally to be an excellent lens. A couple of years ago had an opportunity to trade up to VR11 and did so. Use it on D810 and D4s. It is an even slightly better lens again. Have not yet tried FL model. However, have no complaints of any real consequence to every day photographing with the VR 1 on relatively modern cameras
Title: Re: AF- S 70- 200 2.8 VR (I) and D850
Post by: Erik Lund on July 10, 2018, 12:13:12
Problem or feature with the mark II is that it does loose focal length as you move closer to the subject so it's more like a 135mm up close,,, not 200mm


So yes the FL or mark III is definitely the best of the bunch, although also very expensive.