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Images => Nature, Flora, Fauna & Landscapes => Topic started by: Jakov Minić on April 11, 2018, 23:35:14

Title: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Jakov Minić on April 11, 2018, 23:35:14
Today I after work got home and noticed there was mellow overcast sky. Tulip growing on the balcony.
Don't know why I decided to mount the 180/2.8 and PN-11 but I thought I should give it a shot.
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: BEZ on April 12, 2018, 00:00:40
Very nice,  ethereal.

I have to scroll down to see the full image on my laptop. The top half (landscape) looks particularly appealing if you intend to reshoot.

How many images did you stack to get it so blurred?  :)

Cheers
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Akira on April 12, 2018, 00:26:43
Nicely diffused color composition, Jakov!

Is this the sharpest image you can get with PN-11, or did you intentionally make it out of focus?
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Jakov Minić on April 12, 2018, 01:02:53
Dear Bez, thank you so much for your words!
I will revisit the landscape idea, very good.
I used a total of 0.5 stacks for this one :D

Dear Akira, I always make the blurry ones.
First, I start making it in focus, then I deliberately move the focus a bit to make it creamy.
Then, when I review the images on the big screen, well, I get attracted to the blurry ones.
The 180/2.8 AIS is extremely sharp even with an extension ring.
Thanks!
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Akira on April 12, 2018, 01:31:52
Thank you for sharing your experience, Jakov!  The second image feels as warm and pleasing as the first one.
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: BEZ on April 12, 2018, 02:35:39
Then, when I review the images on the big screen, well, I get attracted to the blurry ones.

"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - Henri Cartier-Bresson
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: golunvolo on April 12, 2018, 05:57:51
Beautiful with “Jakov” stamp on it.
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: armando_m on April 12, 2018, 14:35:10
Jakov

I've always thought your blurry colorful images would make fantastic decorations for upscale boutique hotels, they have this elegant feeling one gets when entering one of this places

Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Frank Fremerey on April 12, 2018, 14:52:50
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept" - Henri Cartier-Bresson

I love you, BEZ!
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: rosko on April 12, 2018, 20:14:14
Tulip growing on the balcony.

What? They are tulips in Netherland !!!

I didn't know that ! ;D ;D

Nice ones BTW...Very colorful.

I have the feeling you'll get the heligon soon... ;)

Cheers, Francis.
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Jakov Minić on April 12, 2018, 23:21:34
Thank you Akira, I feel warm and pleasing at the moment :)

Paco, if it doesn't have a stamp it is not valid, at least that is what they say in Serbia :)

Armando, your words are too kind! I would love to see my photos in a fancy hotel, large!

Frank, I love BEZ too!

Francis, not to believe that we have tulips. I smuggled a few and planted on my balcony :) Thank you!!!

Here is another example.
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Ron Scubadiver on April 13, 2018, 00:55:15
I need some oof color.  Thanks for the hit.
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: HCS on April 13, 2018, 08:22:23
Jakov, you're back and shooting!

Great images and good to see them now spring is really starting to take off here in NL.
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: John Geerts on April 13, 2018, 13:57:04
Good to see you back shooting, Jakov.  Lovely !!   

A technical question:  What focus distance gives the PN-11 with the 180?
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Jakov Minić on April 13, 2018, 23:17:49
Thanks Ron, I am glad you like the color hit!

Hans, spring has arrived, flowers are blooming, how can I miss it, thanks!

John, it's good to be back. The focus distance drops from 1.8 meters to approximately 0.9m. Still a lot of distance to the subject.

Tomorrow, I will give the 85/1.5 Zenit a go :)
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Bent Hjarbo on April 13, 2018, 23:21:59
After some thought, I must admit I like your first picture, nice colours and a very fine composition.
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Mongo on April 14, 2018, 04:04:04
fascinating insight into concept, colour and form. As has already been pointed out, sharpness is an optional factor altogether.

Mongo agrees with Armando that your concept could form the basis of a commercially desirable  product for right organisation/person. It certainly has the potential to "identify" with its user.

Had a 180mm AI-s - sold it. It was a great lens. Have had the 180mm AF (“new”) version for years. This is supposed to be the better of the AF versions but still having to compete hard against the qualities of the AI-s version. Have not used it for many years. It is slow and noisy but when it hits focus, it does do the job really well. You may have inspired Mongo to take it out and use it with the D4s and with and without the PN-11 ring.

Great to see your vibrant and interesting images.
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip (Zenit 85/1.5)
Post by: Jakov Minić on April 14, 2018, 15:48:04
Dear Bent, thank you so much for kind words!

Dear Mongo, your comment means a lot to me, thank you!
The 180 AIS is probably too old to compete with the lenses nowadays. However, it withstands time in a sense that it is still a very capable lens if you know what you are doing and if you know what you would like to achieve. As you said, just like the AF version, if you hit focus, the results are special. Luckily, that was not what I was trying to achieve :)

If two great photographers (Armando and Mongo) believe that it could be a commercially successful concept I am even more happy with the results.

As promised, I went for the 85/1.5 Zenit attached tot he PN-11 just to see how it turns out.
I decided to post these images here although there is a dedicated Zenit thread somewhere. I wanted to compare the two unconventional setups and photography.

D750 + PN-11 + Zenit 85/1.5 (Helios 40-2)
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Jakov Minić on April 15, 2018, 11:50:53
Another Helios example :)
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: golunvolo on April 15, 2018, 11:55:21
Impressive high level all they way through the post. Inspirational stuff Jakov
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Jakov Minić on April 15, 2018, 11:57:40
Thank you Paco so much! I need to get a number 13 in there somehow :)

This one is dedicated to Bez, who had a brilliant idea to include the houses in the background.
This time around without the extension ring, just the 85/1.5 Zenit.
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: knb on April 15, 2018, 13:57:01
Very nice Jakov.
I think I enjoy the Zenit examples even more. Probably because you have mixed something sharp(ish) with the blur.

In the last one, the houses really work for me. But in my opinion, the red and green could be toned down a bit.
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: JohnBrew on April 21, 2018, 15:28:28
Another Helios example :)

REALLY like this one!
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Jakov Minić on April 21, 2018, 17:36:33
Hi Kjetil, yes, I sometimes pump up the colors more than normal.
Thanks!

John, I really like that you really like that one :)
Thanks!

Zenit deals with narcissism, too.
Title: Re: 180/2.8 AIS + PN-11 tulip
Post by: Akira on April 21, 2018, 17:43:11
Nice Zenit images, Jakov!  The second one is a happy marriage of Bez' idea and your execution.