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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: MotherLoad on February 09, 2018, 08:56:45
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Hey guys.
I just got my D850 and Nikon AF-S Nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8G ED lens to go with it. I may im going to take this beauty on vacation, and i will be shooting some things throug windows. I know its not ideal, but there is no way arround this. So im trying to find the best way to do it. I would prefore not to be able to see the window in the shot. Ive heared a polarizion filter would be helpfull here. However ive never shoot with filters before, so if this i true, which to buy to fit on my gear?
And if anyone have some tips for shooting this way please DO share :D
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This will be extremely difficult especially with the 14-24,,,
The 14-24mm doesn't have filter threads,,, There are adapters but for specialist use only I would say - Very expensive.
You should have picked another lens with filter threads,,, Also please note that Polarisers doesn't work well with wide angle lenses, very uneven performance.
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Ahh didnt know that.
I do have a Nikon 18-70 also. And Sigma Art 85mm but im not thinking they would be good for shooting this shot because of the interior im going to be shooting throug the window will be very small. Maybe there is something tricks to shooting throug a window
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Then you need to tell more and show a similar image,,,
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Im going to Bodie US. Its a ghost town from 1800. The houses will be mostly look via windows because the houses are looked. So its small rooms inside with stuff left from the residents.
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So you not shooting the windows,,, your shooting the interior ;D
Then just press up against the glass with for instance a black rubber lens hood mounted, will be similar to shooting through a thick filter, not a big problem.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/11158-REG/B_W_65069614_77mm_Screw_In_Folding_Rubber.html (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/11158-REG/B_W_65069614_77mm_Screw_In_Folding_Rubber.html)
This is even better:
https://petapixel.com/2016/06/01/shoot-glass-leave-unwanted-reflections/
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The lens skirt looks amazing. However ordering from a US store to denmark is very expensive due to extrem taxes here. Ive been trying to find something similarie in EU stories, but no success so fare. You wouldnt happen to know a place in uk or similarie?
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This was taken with a D200, Micro Nikkor 55mm f2.8: 1/50 Sec @ f5.6. Poor light, taken through glass using a Nikon rubber lens hood pressed against the glass. Glass was a bit grubby with finger marks, quick rub with sleeve fixed that. It was a very quick grab shot, the visitors (myself included) were being chased out of the place by a curator at closing time.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4658/39455762144_658f3f2182_b.jpg)
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Beautiful Disa!
home made solution - http://www.michaelcourier.com/flect/
Can be found in the UK http://www.speedgraphic.co.uk/camera__lens_accessories/lens_hoods__caps/10059_0c.html
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If it were me, I’d keep the 14-24. It will be great for exteriors and the landscape. It appears many buildings have no glass. And from looking on the internet it appears that you may be able to shoot through a door way or something.
If you bring a small and light wide lens (say an 18 or 20mm AI) you could use that to push up against any glass. Use a rubber hood to block stray light.
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Maybe you could use something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/Lenskirt-Anti-Reflection-Portable-Flexible-Lens/dp/B005LAW7W8
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Beautiful Disa!
Thank you Woody, I was very pleased when I realised what I had captured in the rush to the exit.
No doubt some will know this already but... the origin of the name Disa is rooted in Scandinavian mythology, Disa, Queen of Sweden. She was commanded to come before the King of the Sveas neither naked nor clothed and accordingly came wrapped in a fishing-net. The reference is to the upper lip of the flower of the type-species, which has a somewhat netted appearance.
More on topic, I usually carry my rubber lens hood, 52mm but almost any plastic, rubber or even cardboard cup would do, together with some black gaffer tape to secure it in place. I usually have some rolls of tape in my bag. A Macdonalds paper cup would do. No need to spend time or money on something like that.
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One thing to be aware of is that old glass can have pretty bad optical properties (after all glass is a fluid with very high viscosity and flows with age). Perhaps it can be used artistically?
(http://otoien.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-3/p2741410855.jpg)
Through the window of an old mountain cabin, this time from the inside to outside. (Of course the 300mm focal length did not help, not meant as an artistic example).
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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/705/21214867410_63b11eba9b_o.jpg)
Through very thick glass, Df - 180mm f/2.8.
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Some PP softwares (Lr, DxO, ..) have a "dehaze" function, which could be very helpful in such cases.
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This was taken with a D200, Micro Nikkor 55mm f2.8: 1/50 Sec @ f5.6. Poor light, taken through glass using a Nikon rubber lens hood pressed against the glass. Glass was a bit grubby with finger marks, quick rub with sleeve fixed that. It was a very quick grab shot, the visitors (myself included) were being chased out of the place by a curator at closing time.
Beautiful Photograph!
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Long ago in galaxy far way...
MotherLoad,
I used a rubber lens hood in a Cessna over Hollywood. I don't remember the model. The hood kept extraneous light off the Plexiglas so reflections were avoided. The lens was probably a 55/3.5 Micro-Nikkor. I remember I had longer lenses. I might have used an 85/1.8 Nikkor-H. I had an 80-200/4.5 Zoom-Nikkor but it was useless with Kodachrome of the day (1972-1973?). I don't think I even tried a shot with the 80-200/4.5 due to motion and vibrations.
Anyway a few rubber hoods might come in handy. I'm wondering about what kind of windows and why a 14-24/2.8? Excluding light might be a requirement.
Dave Hartman
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[Bodie US, I may have been there in the '60s.]
[The device Akira linked looks very promising. It might swallow the 14-24/2.8]
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Maybe you could use something like this?
https://www.amazon.com/Lenskirt-Anti-Reflection-Portable-Flexible-Lens/dp/B005LAW7W8
Very interesting device! Thanks for posting the link. I want one. :)
Dave
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Hi Motherload, so as you've seen taking pictures through glass in itself isn't always a problem (and the device on Amazon looks intriguing).
But I wonder if the real consideration is more the amount of falling on the subject beyond the glass, and the amount (and direction) of light falling on the photographer. So a dark interior and a photographer with bright sunlight shining on them might mean you need extra steps to minimise unwanted reflections.
And is it feasible to take a flashgun with you to illuminate the interior? You might need to hold it above your head, or get a fellow traveller to hold it (remotely triggered) so you boost the illumination of the subject above any reflections.
Meanwhile I was going tell you about the many shots I took through a coach window, whilst travelling round Iceland. Despite the vibration & risks of reflection, many of these came out pretty well......then I realised your situation is slightly different.
So here's an example that might be closer to what you meant (minus the water!)
(http://www.pbase.com/celidh/image/113168449/original.jpg)
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I've had varying luck with shooting interiors through glass, but I don't think the overall light will be nearly as much problem as the reflection, and if you can get close enough to a window, and the light is not too glaring, it can work all right. The widest thing I have at the moment is a 16-85 DX lens on a DX camera, which does not do too badly. If you can get the camera up to the glass, it reduces most of the glare, especially because you yourself will be shielding it from direct light. If you can't get close enough, a polarizer can help, but remember that it also darkens your view a bit, so if the interior is badly lit it will require a pretty high ISO exposure. I'd be sure to take a polarizer anyway, even if some shots are better without it. You may find it helps outdoors anyway.
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Keep in mind that any remaining original window glass at Bodie, California was probably manufactured in the late 19th/very early 20th century. The glass from that time is not plano, and the ripple effect will be severe.
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Rippling glass can be fun but it certainly does make its own problems.
But here's also an admittedly quick and dirty one a bit more like what is anticipated, I think, except for the glass. This a peek through a window at Grieg's composing hut at Ullensvang. Grainy because shot a little too dark and brightened up from ISO 640 on a D7100. A bit more careful exposure, plus better ISO performance ought to do better.