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Images => Life, the Universe & Everything Else => Topic started by: Arild on October 03, 2017, 12:47:35

Title: Why do people get angry?
Post by: Arild on October 03, 2017, 12:47:35
Ever since digital photo came to me back in 2002,  with Canon G3, I always did some finetuning i Photoshop 5.5. The photo attached is from summer 2002 giving you an glimpse of what we struggled with in stoneages of dig photo.

I have always tried to be nice and suggested others some improvements.

That have never worked. In fact every friend and everyone has gotten blindlly angry. In fact pissed.

Why do people react that way. Why havent I for the past 17 years never ever had any sucess with my suggestions for better photos?

I have commented on USM, which would have given not so wooly look. I have commented on framing/cropping, people tend to have 90% sky and 10% earth on photos of their beloved ones taken a mile away, and I have tried to give tips about color correction. Alway the same, piss off, this is MY photos, dont touch it, same answer for 17 years :-(
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: BEZ on October 03, 2017, 12:53:35
Why are you worried about other peoples photographs?
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: Bjørn Rørslett on October 03, 2017, 12:54:49
Don't waste your time trying to educate the Earth's population ... Human nature is weird. Leave it at that.
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: David H. Hartman on October 03, 2017, 13:23:22
Why do people get angry?

They tells up we share 99.7% of our DNA with Neanderthals.

Hope this helps,

Dave

[Sorry I was tired and forgot the quote.]
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: Erik Lund on October 03, 2017, 13:32:24
Your image is tilted to the left,,,
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: Airy on October 03, 2017, 16:12:47
They tells up we share 99.7% of our DNA with Neanderthals.

Hope this helps,

Dave

The Neanderthals were probably smart enough to understand there is no point in sharing poor earth's surface with the sapiens. Unfortunately, they did not know photography was coming, so they gave themselves up.
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: Fons Baerken on October 03, 2017, 16:19:36
Beyond hope and fear is the only option you have ;)
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: Arild on October 03, 2017, 17:13:48
So-- why do people attend courses in Photography all time knowing that their own photos is the best on this Earth?

How in Merlins beard can that teacher be able to shed some learning, when -- say 30 -- all them 30 participants on the course know for sure they have the ONLY and best way to take
nice photos...thats beyond me ....

This photo is from July 27nd. 2002.
Its my hometown.
exif info says Canon Ixus. The first dig camera I ever owned. That lovely Canon G3 I  bought some months later.
Have really forgotten what kind of ixus any ideas??
And at home in the camera bag was a fully loaded Nikon F3HP with a 55 micro Nikkor and kodachrome 64. I still
cant get it why I sold this to fund the G3 :-(
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: armando_m on October 03, 2017, 17:51:37
When I started with digital photography I learned a lot by submitting my images to critique

It takes time to learn to read the comments and not take it personally
 
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: Anthony on October 03, 2017, 17:56:01
People do not like their work to be criticised.

If someone makes you a meal and you tell them they should have done it differently, they will be unhappy with you.

And yet people go to cookery school.

A forum like this is an exception, as there is an expectation (and, usually, a wish) for comments and advice.
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: Jakov Minić on October 03, 2017, 20:33:57
You can always express your opinions on photos from our photo race by simply participating in the poll :)

http://nikongear.net/revival/index.php/board,18.0.html
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: Bruno Schroder on October 03, 2017, 20:49:13
and even better, vote and express opinions on the photos proposed in each of the themed threads :)
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: gryphon1911 on October 03, 2017, 21:39:11
If the people you are making suggestions to are not asking for critique, they may be perceiving you as a "know it all" and not open to the suggestions.   Critique is best given when asked for and not blindly thrust upon people.

Also, my suggestion for a photo is going to be toward my taste in the processing.  That may not be how that person envisioned the image.  They are correct in stating that it is their image and their vision.  If that is the way they want it, then that is their choice.
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: David H. Hartman on October 03, 2017, 22:31:44
+1 "Critique is best given when asked for..."

I don't give a lot of advice as I don't feel I'm a good enough photographer to be doing that.

Dave
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: Matthew Currie on October 04, 2017, 00:50:51
This discussion reminds me of youthful friends who used to write poetry.  When someone asks your honest opinion, run!
Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: Frank Fremerey on October 04, 2017, 05:53:54
I accept critique by people who's work or opinions I admire, who show pictures I'd like to have taken. Rick and Bez and Gary and Fons and Andrew and Paco and Aguinaldo and Ron and many others here, who are much better photographers than I am. I want to learn and I am learning all the time by just looking at their work.

If people come who'se pictures I regard as boring or crap and try to lecture me I regard their voices as irrelevant.

I also make a difference between critical advice = helpful and ad hominem attacks = should be deleted.



Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: tommiejeep on October 04, 2017, 05:55:00
+1 "Critique is best given when asked for..."

I don't give a lot of advice as I don't feel I'm a good enough photographer to be doing that.



Dave
Yup, that is why I never call myself a Photographer

Title: Re: Why do people get angry?
Post by: Arild on October 04, 2017, 12:46:41
Yup, thats why I leave cell phone and every gadget at home at walks for hours in the mountains, all alone, like this, this is me: