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Gear Talk => Camera Talk => Topic started by: Frank Fremerey on July 06, 2015, 22:09:47
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Fuji seems to have something in the pipeline
hope they will bake some pancakes too
they need more lenses not obstructing the
hybrid view finder, the coolest feature.
hope they do something about stabilizer too
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We will be watching this new beast! 8) Can it compete with the new Sony A7 series?
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I love my XP1. I bought it on a whim... because it looked and felt so good. After the purchase I discovered it took one hell of a picture ... the icing on the cake. Pity it is such a slow camera with terrible low light AF. But walking around with the XP1 hanging off a shoulder, made me feel I was back in school dating the cutest cheerleader.
I have no doubt that Fuji XP1 replacement will be another trophy camera. Unfortunately, I've such a large investment in Fujinon APS-C lenses.
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I like the Fujifilm camera concept: Traditional controls and simple functionality.
Fujifilm will have to fix the variable shutter lag issues that seem to afflict all of their cameras (when used with their own lenses) before they'll be a serious competitor to the established, high-performance DSLRs that most of us are used to.
There is an epic discussion about the shutter lag on this thread at the "Original Fuji-X forum":
http://www.fujix-forum.com/index.php?/topic/31478-delay-due-to-aperture-blades-stopping-down-performance-question/ (http://www.fujix-forum.com/index.php?/topic/31478-delay-due-to-aperture-blades-stopping-down-performance-question/)
Note: I have only the earlier Fujifilm XE-1 camera, but the referred-to discussion deals mostly with the newer XT-1 model, including the recent 'miracle' firmware update.
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I like the Fujifilm camera concept: Traditional controls and simple functionality.
Fujifilm will have to fix the variable shutter lag issues that seem to afflict all of their cameras (when used with their own lenses) before they'll be a serious competitor to the established, high-performance DSLRs that most of us are used to.
There is an epic discussion about the shutter lag on this thread at the "Original Fuji-X forum":
http://www.fujix-forum.com/index.php?/topic/31478-delay-due-to-aperture-blades-stopping-down-performance-question/ (http://www.fujix-forum.com/index.php?/topic/31478-delay-due-to-aperture-blades-stopping-down-performance-question/)
Note: I have only the earlier Fujifilm XE-1 camera, but the referred-to discussion deals mostly with the newer XT-1 model, including the recent 'miracle' firmware update.
The AF on the first generation Fuji X cameras was a dog ... the first generation cameras did everything slow. In low light, the first generation cameras started howling. The second generation X cameras, E2/XT1, have very fast AF. The only significant difference in AF is that the mirrorless cameras don't track. There is a recent Fuji firmware upgrade to the AF which may have addressed the tracking problem.
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Great news for the Fuji fans, fere's the rumour btw:
http://www.fujirumors.com/fujifilm-x-pro2-24mp-aps-c-sensor-tilt-screen-wifi-available-2015-anonymous-source/ (http://www.fujirumors.com/fujifilm-x-pro2-24mp-aps-c-sensor-tilt-screen-wifi-available-2015-anonymous-source/)
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If there will be a Xpro2 it will offer similar AF performance as the X100T or hopefully better. The only thing that is sometimes troublesome is that switch on and shoot is faster than wake from sleep an shoot. I missed a lot of shots that way.
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For the record, the Fujifilm 'shutter lag' I griped about above is not AF related; it applies, variably, in manual focus modes. It has, so far as I know, gone unacknowledged by Fujifilm.
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One thing the Fuji can't beat is the black out time when shooting high FPS series. The viewfinder blacks out until the series is over and this hampers action shooting. Then again the X-T1 I had isn't an action camera.
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I would be surprised if Fuji would be seriously preparing for yet another rangefinder-style camera with OVF. Since the release of XPro1, they have put out many lenses of larger diameter that will cause heavy vignetting in the OVF. In addition, many zoom lenses have been added to the lineup. All of these factors should make the OVF of the highest-end model almost meaningless.
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I would be surprised if Fuji would be seriously preparing for yet another rangefinder-style camera with OVF. Since the release of XPro1, they have put out many lenses of larger diameter that will cause heavy vignetting in the OVF. In addition, many zoom lenses have been added to the lineup. All of these factors should make the OVF of the highest-end model almost meaningless.
You make perfect sense, yet the indications on the intergoogle suggest there will be an XPro 2.
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Having lenses that wont match the OVF or block the viewfinder never stopped Leica from introducing new cameras :)
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I look forward to seeing a new version of the Fuji body with hybrid viewfinder. Even if only some lenses are practical to use with the OVF, I would still want that capability.
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You make perfect sense, yet the indications on the intergoogle suggest there will be an XPro 2.
The probability of the rumor of XPro2 is even more surprising. :D
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Having lenses that wont match the OVF or block the viewfinder never stopped Leica from introducing new cameras :)
Leica made their rangefinder lenses with huge barrels during the time neither EVF or LCD was imaginable. The only solutions were the lens specific viewfinders to mount on the accessory shoe to avoid vignetting or Visoflex.
XPro2 is to be the highest-end model of the lineup, and it is funny that the highest-end model is going to suffer from the anachronistic functional limitation of OVF.
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XPro2 is to be the highest-end model of the lineup, and it is funny that the highest-end model is going to suffer from the anachronistic functional limitation of OVF.
Good point, hopefully they'll come with a solution for that like making the body slightly wider, etc.
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Good point, hopefully they'll come with a solution for that like making the body slightly wider, etc.
Then Sigma Quattro comes to my mind! (Oh, I miss that devil emoticon!)
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The photographer can switch the hybrid viewfinder to EVF mode when they are using zoom lenses or lenses that are not well supported by the OVF.
For me the main interest in the Fuji system comes from the availability of OVF and a nice set of prime lenses that are designed for the APS-C sensor size and fairly compact for the focal length and aperture, which would potentially make a great camera for documentary photography at close range. Without the OVF, even though it has limitations, I'm just not interested in the system at all. I believe the X-Pro lineup of bodies are mainly designed for people with a similar mindset, i.e., those who consider the OVF important. The XT series are for those who want the best EVF and do not need a hybrid viewfinder. I think having a choice is always a good thing, and I really like Fuji for keeping the OVF available in some models.
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Then Sigma Quattro comes to my mind! (Oh, I miss that devil emoticon!)
:)
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Great news for the Fuji fans, fere's the rumour btw:
http://www.fujirumors.com/fujifilm-x-pro2-24mp-aps-c-sensor-tilt-screen-wifi-available-2015-anonymous-source/ (http://www.fujirumors.com/fujifilm-x-pro2-24mp-aps-c-sensor-tilt-screen-wifi-available-2015-anonymous-source/)
The rumor ist more than one year old.... no follow up rumor at all...
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XPro2 is to be the highest-end model of the lineup, and it is funny that the highest-end model is going to suffer from the anachronistic functional limitation of OVF.
Yes it is... the XPro-1 finder can only show a very limited range of simulated fields of view, and without the optically correct flatness and movie-theater vividness of the SLR or EVF finder. But, I may be willing to suffer along with it in an "improved" XPro-2.
The so-called reverse Gallilean finder embraced by Fujifilm and Leica, it is still the only currently produced(TLRs qualified also) viewfinder type that allows viewing of the subject at the actual moment of exposure. Sometimes, that matters.
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XPro2 is to be the highest-end model of the lineup, and it is funny that the highest-end model is going to suffer from the anachronistic functional limitation of OVF.
Yes it is... the XPro-1 finder can only show a very limited range of simulated fields of view, and without the optically correct flatness and movie-theater vividness of the SLR or EVF finder. But, I may be willing to suffer along with it in an "improved" XPro-2.
The so-called reverse Gallilean finder embraced by Fujifilm and Leica, it is still the only currently produced(TLRs qualified also) viewfinder type that allows viewing of the subject at the actual moment of exposure. Sometimes, that matters.
The vignetting is not the only problem of the OVF. The uselessness for closeups is another big issue. I agree with the benefit of its ability to monitor the literally "full" process of image taking, though. I enjoyed using Leica M cameras during the film days.
Another benefit of the rangefinder OVF is the shorter shutter lag thanks to the absense of mirror-up time. According to the review of imaging-resource.com, the shutter lag of XPro-1 is 0.053sec. (prefocused) which is in the same class as Nikon D7X00/600/610/810. The champion is X100S whose prefocused shutter lag is 0.011sec.
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Notes on shutter lag:
I haven't been able to find Imaging Resource's statement of methodology regarding how they measure shutter lag.
Have you seen their explanation?
Without them explaining how they measure lag, their "tests" have zero credibility.
While the non-reflex OVF can/should allow the shortest possible lag between pushing the button and the actual moment of exposure, in reality it hasn't always worked out that way.
My Nikon D800 has a shorter net lag(me plus the camera) than my friend's Leica M9 that I compared!
The lag of my Fujifilm XE-1 is longer still(which was expected), and variable as well, depending on whether a native Fuji lens is used---Fuji X native lenses can give a longer lag due to a delay while the camera waits for the electrically-powered aperture to stop down.
Hopefully Fuji will address this delay stuff in future cams.
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XPro2 is to be the highest-end model of the lineup, and it is funny that the highest-end model is going to suffer from the anachronistic functional limitation of OVF.
Yes it is... the XPro-1 finder can only show a very limited range of simulated fields of view, and without the optically correct flatness and movie-theater vividness of the SLR or EVF finder. But, I may be willing to suffer along with it in an "improved" XPro-2.
The so-called reverse Gallilean finder embraced by Fujifilm and Leica, it is still the only currently produced(TLRs qualified also) viewfinder type that allows viewing of the subject at the actual moment of exposure. Sometimes, that matters.
Which is something I have always felt to be quite interesting that for SLR's/dSLR's the photog never sees the actual capture at the time of the shutter release.
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Notes on shutter lag:
I haven't been able to find Imaging Resource's statement of methodology regarding how they measure shutter lag.
Have you seen their explanation?
Without them explaining how they measure lag, their "tests" have zero credibility.
While the non-reflex OVF can/should allow the shortest possible lag between pushing the button and the actual moment of exposure, in reality it hasn't always worked out that way.
My Nikon D800 has a shorter net lag(me plus the camera) than my friend's Leica M9 that I compared!
The lag of my Fujifilm XE-1 is longer still(which was expected), and variable as well, depending on whether a native Fuji lens is used---Fuji X native lenses can give a longer lag due to a delay while the camera waits for the electrically-powered aperture to stop down.
Hopefully Fuji will address this delay stuff in future cams.
When imaging-resource updated their equipment to measure the shutter lag several years ago, I remember reading their explanation in their site. But I cannot locate that anymore.
I understand your doubt about the measurement, but their numbers well corresponds with the impressions of the cameras I have used over the years. Sony NEX-5R/T was impressive in this regard.
With "shutter lag", I mean the time between the pressing of the release button and the actuation of the shutter blade.
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XPro2 is to be the highest-end model of the lineup, and it is funny that the highest-end model is going to suffer from the anachronistic functional limitation of OVF.
Yes it is... the XPro-1 finder can only show a very limited range of simulated fields of view, and without the optically correct flatness and movie-theater vividness of the SLR or EVF finder. But, I may be willing to suffer along with it in an "improved" XPro-2.
The so-called reverse Gallilean finder embraced by Fujifilm and Leica, it is still the only currently produced(TLRs qualified also) viewfinder type that allows viewing of the subject at the actual moment of exposure. Sometimes, that matters.
Which is something I have always felt to be quite interesting that for SLR's/dSLR's the photog never sees the actual capture at the time of the shutter release.
With Leica M you have the view of the full scene before during and after :) It is really nice and a very short shutter lag. When shooting the big Nikon bodies I have a quite good feeling for seeing if people blink or have a wrong expression at the time of capture even though it's blaked out at the moment of capture, always had that ability...
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XPro2 is to be the highest-end model of the lineup, and it is funny that the highest-end model is going to suffer from the anachronistic functional limitation of OVF.
Yes it is... the XPro-1 finder can only show a very limited range of simulated fields of view, and without the optically correct flatness and movie-theater vividness of the SLR or EVF finder. But, I may be willing to suffer along with it in an "improved" XPro-2.
The so-called reverse Gallilean finder embraced by Fujifilm and Leica, it is still the only currently produced(TLRs qualified also) viewfinder type that allows viewing of the subject at the actual moment of exposure. Sometimes, that matters.
Which is something I have always felt to be quite interesting that for SLR's/dSLR's the photog never sees the actual capture at the time of the shutter release.
With Leica M you have the view of the full scene before during and after :) It is really nice and a very short shutter lag. When shooting the big Nikon bodies I have a quite good feeling for seeing if people blink or have a wrong expression at the time of capture even though it's blaked out at the moment of capture, always had that ability...
I was speaking more in theoretical terms and not in practice. I've never felt the need to see the precise image at capture. When I was shooting film everyday ... I got to the point that my finger would have a slight tingle when I captured an exceptional image. With digital I rarely chimp.
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I was speaking more in theoretical terms and not in practice. I've never felt the need to see the precise image at capture. When I was shooting film everyday ... I got to the point that my finger would have a slight tingle when I captured an exceptional image. With digital I rarely chimp.
I had several different Leica M4's and an M6 in the 1980s-2000's, and there was this thing that happened often: You'd quickly frame and shoot a shot, looking only at the relationship of the frame to the single main subject. Then, when examining the prints, you'd see all sorts of seemingly precisely framed details at the edges of the shots. Details that were not consciously included in the frame.
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When imaging-resource updated their equipment to measure the shutter lag several years ago, I remember reading their explanation in their site. But I cannot locate that anymore.
I understand your doubt about the measurement, but their numbers well corresponds with the impressions of the cameras I have used over the years. Sony NEX-5R/T was impressive in this regard.
With "shutter lag", I mean the time between the pressing of the release button and the actuation of the shutter blade.
NEW: Imaging Resource provided a link to the explanation of their speed testing methodology:
http://www.imaging-resource.com/ARTS/TESTS/TIMING.HTM (http://www.imaging-resource.com/ARTS/TESTS/TIMING.HTM)
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The FUJI X-PRO 2 is being shipped out today and by the looks of the local shops it's going out in huge numbers flooding the streets :o :D
Is anyone here shooting it,,, Anything to report?
I saw it quickly last Saturday - Really impressive IMHO!
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Gary has already bought it. See 366 days thread for first coverage...
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Mike you mean
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The latest and greatest.
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Congrats! I had the x-pro1 for about a year from when it was released. Absolutely loved the camera and had no idea why everybody complained about the AF. The AF-MF worked just fine for my use, even for birds in flight. Sold the camera because the first model wasnt that adapted to harsh conditions. But this one is, or so I heard. Miss the RAF-files and the wonderful JPEGs...
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Mike you mean
Gary I mean
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The latest and greatest.
Congrats Gary on your new precious, can't think of a more suitable camera for your style of shooting :)
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Congrats Gary on your new precious, can't think of a more suitable camera for your style of shooting :)
What's sorta funny, I was in my camera store the other day, the staff was visiting my website whilst I was looking at all the Nikons and Canons and stuff ... when it dawned on me that most likely everything in my website, I could have easily captured with Nikon, Canon, Fuji, Olympus, et al with equal success. Then it dawned on me that specific brands of hardware are rapidly becoming irrelevant and meaningless.
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"specific brands of hardware are rapidly becoming irrelevant and meaningless"
Very true. At least until you try to put the stuff together ... Thus, yes, but stick to a given system at a time. Whatever that system might be.
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For sure, there has newer been a special brand for hammers or screwdrivers in my toolbox; It's just a matter of picking the right size for the job at hand - One point is ofte though the case that if you need a big hammer on a mountain top you got to haul it up there,,, ;)
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well, knowing Fuji there will be 4-5 cameras coming out in the next 1-2 years based on the Xpro2 sensor :o :o :o
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I need good video as well as good stills. Have three Fuji bodies and 5 Fuji lenses. I'll be selling all and concentrating on the Sony A7 family.
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"specific brands of hardware are rapidly becoming irrelevant and meaningless"
Very true. At least until you try to put the stuff together ... Thus, yes, but stick to a given system at a time. Whatever that system might be.
Harmonizing with your equipment is the best way to increase your keeper rate.
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Harmonizing with your equipment is the best way to increase your keeper rate.
Absolutely true, but to fully harmonise with your equipment you need to find a system you can connect with :)
A skilled photographer should be able to make any platform work but when there's an emotional connection with the used gear creativity can flow freely unhindered from any frustrations, big or small.
Whatever capabilities and features add up to connect is mostly subjective, besides the common things like built, button layout, size, ISO, IQ, sensor size, lens character, etc I like features like a metal camera body, metal lenses, aperture rings, etc to complete the picture, pun untended ;D
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Absolutely true, but to fully harmonise with your equipment you need to find a system you can connect with :)
A skilled photographer should be able to make any platform work but when there's an emotional connection with the used gear creativity can flow freely unhindered from any frustrations, big or small.
Whatever capabilities and features add up to connect is mostly subjective, besides the common things like built, button layout, size, ISO, IQ, sensor size, lens character, etc I like features like a metal camera body, metal lenses, aperture rings, etc to complete the picture, pun untended ;D
I disagree. For the pro, creativity and skill and the need/desire to get the job done ... trumps equipment. The pros I know always manage to get the job done. Harmonizing with the harware makes it easier ... But not harmonizing will not keep the pro from the exceptional image.
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Gary, I'm NOT a pro and far from professional with my images, nice gear I connect with makes me wanna shoot images and gear I don't connect with collects dust or is sold off.
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Gary, I'm NOT a pro and far from professional with my images, nice gear I connect with makes me wanna shoot images and gear I don't connect with collects dust or is sold off.
I've seen your stuff, you shoot like a pro. ;)
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An emotional connection to subject is important.
Familiarity with equipment is important.
This leaves us with the question raised by JA: Can eqiupment motivate us to shoot more and better?
I tend to say yes, because equipment I like to always carry I will always carry, therefore I will take more photos
because I am hot to take photos.
Follow up question: Will I need more and newer equipment to renew this effect from time to time?
Possibly a YES also.
In that sense after a few days, Gary... still exited by your XPro2???
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An emotional connection to subject is important.
Familiarity with equipment is important.
This leaves us with the question raised by JA: Can eqiupment motivate us to shoot more and better?
I tend to say yes, because equipment I like to always carry I will always carry, therefore I will take more photos
because I am hot to take photos.
Follow up question: Will I need more and newer equipment to renew this effect from time to time?
Possibly a YES also.
In that sense after a few days, Gary... still exited by your XPro2???
New hardware is always fun and exciting. As a former pro, it is all about the final image. Good/better equipment makes capturing the exceptional easier. Most pros think of equipment mostly as a tool, not something which elicits excitement. I think how one feels about equipment somewhat separates pros from hobbyists.
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New hardware is always fun and exciting. As a former pro, it is all about the final image. Good/better equipment makes capturing the exceptional easier. Most pros think of equipment most as a tool, not something which elicits excitement. I think how one feels about equipment somewhat separates pros from hobbyists.
I've tried to look around NG on reports of the performance of the X-Pro2 and I haven't found any yet.
Gary you have had one for some days now, Bob (longhiker) has one too, maybe others as well.
Is it too early to report on the performance?
The most important thing for me now is AF - how improved is it compared to the X-T1?
There are other things I am also interested in hearing about:
- What sort of improvements you see at high ISO
- What do you think of the joystick (it seems to me it should be a great thing)
Ultimately I am more interested in the X-T1 body format, mainly because the position of the viewfinder in the rangefinder-style bodies does not work well for me and because I like the tiltable screen; I expect that most or all of the functional improvement of the X-Pro2 will feature also in the X-T2.
The one thing I don't think we'll see in the X-T2 is the weatherproof mechanical cable release option.
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New hardware is always fun and exciting. As a former pro, it is all about the final image. Good/better equipment makes capturing the exceptional easier. Most pros think of equipment mostly as a tool, not something which elicits excitement. I think how one feels about equipment somewhat separates pros from hobbyists.
I am with Gary here. I even remember making conscious effort not to get into the gear fetish and concentrate on the final result, which is an image, as Gary pointed, not getting hold of the best gear. I did that because I had a feeling these two very different motivations somehow clash, I believe one has to free himself from this gear attachment to concentrate purely on photography to get to the next level. We are all humans though and I can not help loving my X-T1. I am not interested in the second incarnation of T and Pro models. I am absolutely fine with what I have got now.
So... Maybe XT-3 .. ;D
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I have a smaller Fuji system than my Nikon system.
I have the XPro1, XT1, XE2, XE1, XE1 Ir concerted to 655nm and X100T with a set of lenses.
I have decided to skip the XPro2 as I prefer the D500 for my type of work - (Flamenco dance and wildlife), my D600, D800 do very well for the landscape work. The XT1 and Xpro1 I use in the studio and they yield phenomenal IQ and results but the AF does not compete with the Nikons.
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I currently shoot 3 different systems. Each has it's own purpose.
Nikon for BIF and super fast action sports. Indeed, as mentioned above, no Fuji X cameras' AF can compare with the AF of a modern Nikon body.
Pentax in Pixel Shift mode for landscapes and still lifes.
Fuji X mirrorless because it's the only system that currently offers "ISO bracketing". Fuji has the best out of camera JPGs, so I use a Fuji X body when shooting family JPG snapshots or quick stuff for the Internet that I don't care to take the time to do any post on. Also, I love the tiny form factor of the Fuji mirrorless with one of their tiny primes.
While I don't yet have the new Fuji X-ProII, I have read some reviews on it, and believe that this new 24MP body mostly improves upon the things that I already love about the prior Fuji X 16MP bodies - although its' AF being slightly improved is still not up to the level of a Nikon body with a modern tele Nikkor lens.
Most of us Fuji X folks fully expect that Fuji will in short order release new 24MP versions of: X-T1 and X-E2.
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The XP2 AF's like a champ. I haven't tried tracking. I shot a theatre performance, I was on stage for the dress rehearsal. I was moving around, the performers were moving around and the lighting was fluid and constantly changing. No complaints. I had an XT1 w/ 50-140, XT1 w/ 16-55, XP2 w/ 10-24. I used the EVF on the XP2 and the EVF on the XT1 was much better, I could see a difference in size and rendering. The controls, like all Fuji's, are great, aperture on the lenses, shutter, ISO, et al on top. The battery grips of the XCT1's with the ease of going vertical is a definite pulse for the XT1. The two card slots is a plus for the XP2 (I selected one card as RAW the other JPEG).
I shoot most everything with two cameras. The new 24MP sensor is a significant improvement over the 16MP in terms of high ISO noise. With the 16MP sensor, I shot at 3200 without giving it a second thought and at 6400 with a second thought. I see at least one stop of noise improvement ... But more shooting is needed for me to really see how noise is handled above 6400. Essentially, I need more time with camera in hand before I decide to pick up a second XP2 or wait for the XT2. For me it is all about the final image and I have little attraction for the optical viewfinder. It is there, it works well ... But it doesn't improve the final image better. Now, as a hobbyist, I am beginning to appreciate the photographic experience more ... But not to the point where I find the optical viewfinder as a significant feature.
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Thanks for the updates on these Fuji cameras!
.... I used the EVF on the XP2 and the EVF on the XT1 was much better, I could see a difference in size and rendering. ........
Did I read this right? EVF on the XT1 was much better,,,
How is it better?
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The info in the XT1 seemed larger and easier to read than the XP2 and at the default EVF settings the XP2 lacked contrast in the odd theatrical lighting ... Could be just the default setting, in normal daylight it look just fine.
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Thanks for the clarification ;)
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For me it is all about the final image and I have little attraction for the optical viewfinder. It is there, it works well ... But it doesn't improve the final image better. Now, as a hobbyist, I am beginning to appreciate the photographic experience more ... But not to the point where I find the optical viewfinder as a significant feature.
Aha, thought you bought the Xpro2 for the OVF to have the best of both worlds, hence my confusion earlier in this topic ;D
I'm now so used to an EVF the OVF doesn't make any sense anymore to my brain. My mind goes like "how do I zoom the image for critical focussing?" and "where's the live histogram?" quickly followed by a Homer Simpson "Doh" moment :P :o
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According to bhphoto.com the X-Pro2 has an eyepoint of only 16mm and 0.59x magnification. The X-T1 has 0.7x magnification and a 23mm eyepoint. The magnifications are stated in 35mm format equivalents (hope that's understandable). This could explain why the X-T1 viewfinder appears to be better than the X-Pro2 viewfinder. Fuji seems to have had to make a compromise when designing the hybrid viewfinder.
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According to Fuji's official website, the magnification of EVF of X-T1 is 0.77x as opposed to 0.59x that of X-Pro2, which is quite some difference.
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It isn't that the XP2's EVF is bad ... it's more that the XT1 is better. XT1 may very well have the best EVF in the world. The XT1's EVF is better than my EM1's EVF. Sometimes I'll use the OVF ... but I enjoy seeing the exposure.
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Those 'paper numbers' indeed indicate that the X-T1 is a larger finder so should be better ;) so no real surprise Gary actually just a confirmation. Thanks!
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Gary, a member of my French forum (Pixelistes), owner of this body reports that the battery charge doesn't last very long : about 110 shots in jpeg.
Do you confirm the same ?
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Gary, a member of my French forum (Pixelistes), owner of this body reports that the battery charge doesn't last very long : about 110 shots in jpeg.
Do you confirm the same ?
Sorry, but no. That seems awfully low. As with all mirrorless, the EVF sucks up a lot of power ... so much is dependant upon how you shoot. If you frame and focus, refocus, refocus, reframe, refocus ... et cetera for every shot and then you chimp every shot, your count will be low. If you shoot at 8FPS, your count will be high. I definitely captured more than 110 shots on one battery. I only changed the battery once when I shot the theatrical performance. I have about six extra batteries. I used two cards in the camera, one for RAW and the other for JPEG. (I don't have a XP2 RAW processing program yet, probably go with Iridient.) I am adamant about turning off the cameras when not shooting. I plan to start processing the theatre stuff tonight and I'll get an image count ... but I don't know how much charge the starting XP2 battery had. But thinking back, 110 seems terribly low. (I rarely chimp.)
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According to bhphoto.com the X-Pro2 has an eyepoint of only 16mm and 0.59x magnification. The X-T1 has 0.7x magnification and a 23mm eyepoint.
I wear glasses and the X-T1 viewfinder would probably be a better choice for that reason. I tried the X-T10 and I found it to be a bit tricky due to my glasses. I assume the X-T1 viewfinder is also better shielded wrt. light.
For comparison - the X-T10 is eyepoint of 17.5 mm and 0.62 magnification. Sounds like the X-T10 is slightly better than the X-Pro2 then.
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As someone who also wears glasses I have no trouble with the X-T1 EVF and can see all of the screen, hopefully Fuji will not ruin it on the expected X-T2!
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My personal experience is that any viewfinder with an eyepoint specification shorter than 18-19mm will cause problems when wearing spectacles. I don't understand why the manufacturers skimp on this with modern cameras.
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That makes two of us Bjornthun, personally I think the distance should be a minimum of 25mm!
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Thanks, Gary, for these useful explanations.
As you said, it depends how you use it. With my Df I rarely use the live view (except for focus in 1:1 macro work) and my battery last very long, although some users complain about it.
Cheers, Francis.
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Here's a review of the Xpro2 from Amy Medina:
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2016/03/16/a-fuji-x-pro-2-real-world-review-by-amy-medina/ (http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2016/03/16/a-fuji-x-pro-2-real-world-review-by-amy-medina/)
I have no idea who she is but am truly impressed by her images, a lot of them a real wow factor.
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Fujifilm released a firmware update for the Xpro2:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0460287507/fujifilm-x-pro2-firmware-update-1-01-now-available (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0460287507/fujifilm-x-pro2-firmware-update-1-01-now-available)