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Gear Talk => Lens Talk => Topic started by: Michio Akiyama on August 18, 2017, 18:28:04
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Hello Nikon friends,
Nikon Kenkyukai Tokyo Meeting Report updated on August 19 2017.
Please browse!!
Nikon 100th Anniversary Special
The Monster Telephoto Nikkor Lenses and Grand Big Binoculars Show
http://redbook-jp.com/kenkyukai-e/2017/201707.html
July 15, 2017. The Nikon Kenkyukai Tokyo held a special event to celebrate Nikon's 100th birthday.
Please enjoy and have fun !! Thank you.
Michio Akiyama/NIPPON A member of NikonGear and Nikon Kenkyukai Tokyo
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very nice.. thank you!.. wish i was there!
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A lot of old friends seen there. I still regret having sold my 300/2 Nikkor. I was young and foolish back then, apparently :D The 1200-1700 is a lens I sometimes wish I had access to when my 360-1200 has too "little" reach.
A pity they are given such inadequate tripod support, though.
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yes very nice thank you
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Dear Michio Akiyama,
Thank you so much for sharing this event! I thoroughly enjoyed the series of photos with a huge smile on my face.
Yes, the 1200-1700 is something to for the next NG photo race through The Hague.
I see myself walking through the city with it until I get arrested :D
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Bjørn. you might have wanted to participate with your 1200 and 800 "ED" for the focusing unit which seems to lack at the event? :o :o :o
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Thank you so much, Michio, for posting this.
You put a smile in my face and made me very jealous of all those gems.
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Thank you for posting. Very enjoyable.
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Impressive lenses
Thanks for sharing
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Bjørn,
I am surprised that there is a Nikon optic that you do not have ! Last time I was up at your place you certainly did have a very, very long one.
p.
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Could have contributed as well, Big-Glass Tele do not easily travel in numbers
What a pity that they evidently just playing as there is systematically too weak tripod support, wrong tripods and heads plus extended (!) central column!
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Anyone using these lenses for real shooting knows only too well how badly in need of good support they are all of them. Tiny toy-like tripods and raised centre column can never bode anything good for the outcome in terms of image quality.
Paul: my longest is "only" the 360-1200 Nikkor :D. However, the 800/8ED is almost as long as this is not a telephoto design.
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I added images of very rare SAPPORO NIKKOR 300mm F2.8 lens.
Please browse!!
Nikon 100th Anniversary Special
The Monster Telephoto Nikkor Lenses and Grand Big Binoculars Show
http://redbook-jp.com/kenkyukai-e/2017/201707.html
Michio Akiyama/NIPPON A member of NikonGear and Nikon Kenkyukai Tokyo
(http://redbook-jp.com/db/2017/20170824-010.jpg)
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Wonderful lenses and people! Thank you for posting these- Really special to see so many different lenses together.
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It's Japanese market price in August 2017.
Reflex Niikor 2000mm F11, 2,160,000 Japanese YEN. About 197,418 US Dollars.
(http://redbook-jp.com/db/2017/20170905-010.jpg)
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An "in-car" lens if there ever was one :D The tripod support needs to be massive as well.
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It's not Nikon but I love it.
Minolta RF ROKKOR 1600mm F11, prototype lens, lens serial number 1000002 !!
4,500,000 Japanese YEN. About 41,128 US Dollars.
(http://redbook-jp.com/db/2017/20170905-020.jpg)
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I'll have a couple of those 2000/11, please :D
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I'll have a couple of those 2000/11, please :D
A few were sold and delivered on location to the press covering the train hijackings in the north of The Netherlands during the seventies...
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A few were sold and delivered on location to the press covering the train hijackings in the north of The Netherlands during the seventies...
Have you managed to accidentally hide one in your pocket?
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Have you managed to accidentally hide one in your pocket?
No, pockets not deep and wide enough ;D
It must have been a very profitable operation for the Dutch distributor at that moment (Inca)... Would be interesting to know where these lenses ended up after 40 years.
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It's not Nikon but I love it.
Minolta RF ROKKOR 1600mm F11, prototype lens, lens serial number 1000002 !!
4,500,000 Japanese YEN. About 41,128 US Dollars.
(http://redbook-jp.com/db/2017/20170905-020.jpg)
Very nice and rare find!
Would be quite easy to convert to Nikon F-mount ;)
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currently overhauling :o :o :o
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The 360-1200 is a mighty view and a beast to haul around. Fortunately, all the internals are sized accordingly so at least should be easy to work with.
If this be the first version(s), the tripod mount is pitiful. To be precise, the L-shaped handle itself is solid enough, but there is just a small platform in the end where a tiny 1/4" screw is supposed to keep all the mass and forces under control :( Needless to say reinforcements are called for here.
I inserted a thick massive aluminium bar into the slot in the handle (fit is so tight it had to be hammered into position !!), secured it with robust bolts going all the way through the handle so nuts could be fastened and tightened at the other side; then put a quick-release Sachtler plate for their video heads on the bar and keep that in place with three 3/8" screws. Now, the lens behaves properly on a suitable tripod :D
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Impressive Ric! I see you are working on the AIS version, be sure to check the serial number against my list :) This is one of the few lenses where I have good information on the start and end serial numbers so the total production is known - only 81 AIS 360-1200 lenses were ever made (assuming no gaps in production).
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If this be the first version(s), the tripod mount is pitiful. To be precise, the L-shaped handle itself is solid enough, but there is just a small platform in the end where a tiny 1/4" screw is supposed to keep all the mass and forces under control :( Needless to say reinforcements are called for here.
This is the earlier version? Sorry I do not know much about this lens :o :o :o
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Impressive Ric! I see you are working on the AIS version, be sure to check the serial number against my list :) This is one of the few lenses where I have good information on the start and end serial numbers so the total production is known - only 81 AIS 360-1200 lenses were ever made (assuming no gaps in production).
here is a closer look at the serial # :o :o :o
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Rick, yours looks like the later version: rounded foot of the collar vs. edged one on Bjørn's.
Did you get yours for 500 yen?! :o :o :o
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Rick, yours looks like the later version: rounded foot of the collar vs. edged one on Bjørn's.
Did you get yours for 500 yen?! :o :o :o
this is not mine :o :o :o
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#174721 make it an Ais lens in that range
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HELP!
I am aware that some Nikon telephoto monster lenses need a filter to go to infinity. :o :o :o
Now, my question is this: does the 360-1200mm f/11 need the filter to do that? Thanks!
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Not that I am aware of. This lens can accept 122mm front filters but they don't affect infinity focus. This lens does not accept internal filters, which can displace the focus point a little, but it would make little difference on a telephoto like this anyway. Telephotos with ED glass are designed to focus past infinity (to allow for thermal expansion/contraction) so there is already plenty of allowance for changes to infinity focus.
Removing the internal/rear filter does make a big difference at the other extreme - on my 16mm fisheye taking the rear filter off makes the lens focus closer, which is handy at times, but infinity focus is lost.
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HELP!
I am aware that some Nikon telephoto monster lenses need a filter to go to infinity. :o :o :o
Now, my question is this: does the 360-1200mm f/11 need the filter to do that? Thanks!
No. It does not.
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I am aware that some Nikon telephoto monster lenses need a filter to go to infinity. :o :o :o
I have never heard of this, quite the opposite, they focus 'past infinity',,,
Are you in trouble,,, just reassemble the elements until you find the one that is reversed,,,
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OK, I fixed it! it's just that the helicoid got caught on something and I needed to use force to have it sit all the way :o :o :o
now it's done!
one thing that I notice about this lens is that the iris at f/11 isn't really fully-open. It can only be like this since I didn't mess around with this. the only way this could F up us if somebody else opened this prior to me and got it wrong which I doubt. It is pretty sharp at f/11! lots of details! this is great for taking pictures of dangerous situations or wild animals. for me, this will have plenty of application on a nudist beach ::) couple it with a D850 and it's a winner!
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Question about the monster lenses in the OP -- are the biggest ones hand assembled? I don't know much about how the specialized glass and lenses are made!
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I guess that some current high volume lenses are partially machine assembled, but all the older manual focus lenses would be completely hand assembled, and modern low volume lenses like the super-teles are probably built by hand also.
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Accoding to this video posted in 2009, Canon superteles were hand assembled. I don't think Nikon does it too differently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Oyud3EA9kE
Recently Canon announced that they were planning to build a new factory in which the assembly process would be highly automated.